Are pushfits any good, copper or plastic pipe.

[lancealot69]

Ive been using speedfit for over 10 years, it was originally designed and still used by the cellar brewery industry. I have had problems with it the same as endfeed, tectite, yorshire, ployplumb, hep20, qualpex, compression.
Basically any jointing method needs to be fit for purpose. Noone wants to see a plastic fitting, so I will use plastic pipe and fittings under floors or baths. And copper where it's seen, having said that sometimes like when I need to cap off a pipe, a white speedfit cap looks better, but not when the pipe is heavily painted then compression is better. The point is that plastic pipe and fittings is another tool in our armory, its how we use it that makes us professional.

 

[spanner]

What type of a pushfit are they or are they all the same type??

 

[Dannypipe]

Yes I like pushfit plumbing, as said it has its place in our armoury. There are times when a pushfit can save you hours of faffing and I can still walk away and know that the joint is good.

Frankly I don't understand why people get so uptight about it. I don't think we'll see the end of sweated copper in our generation, but I wouldn't lose much sleep if we did.

Now despite everything I've just said above, 90% of my work is hard plumbed in copper....but yes pushfit is a brilliant invention. Wish I had thought of it!

 

[MDH.PLUMBER]

theres lads who are working for smiths at mann island on 500 apartments and all they use is yorkshire techtite pushfit so it cant be that bad am only a bathroom fitter but i stick to soldering and not using any pushfits or flexis.

 

[Dannypipe]

Try getting a Tectite apart with your bare hands and then tell us they're rubbish. They have their place in the plumbing world as much a adjustable traps, solvent weld waste and flexi hoses. It took more skill to do without these things but I wouldn't want to lose them and most of Joe public don't want to plumb no matter how simple it may or may not be. The ones who do try and DIY are mainly tightwads and often cock things up.

I have a client who often 'has a go' at things before he calls me in. In the last year he's snapped the head from a stopcock with the water off, and dropped a spanner through his basin cracking it. Last time I went round was to tighent a tap he'd had a go at, and snapped the back nut.

We'll always have work in this business no matter how simple they make certain things.

 

[mrlennie]

What about these stories of pushfits blowing off if not pressure tested to 10bar?

 

[Dannypipe]

Pushfits will blow off from a chromed pipe, but then people who put speedfit on a chrome pipe frankly deserve a good soaking!!

I've never known a pushfit to 'blow off' but I'm sure it must happen. Nothings perfect.

 

[Avatar]

I think you may find some compression fittings would fly off if tested at 10 bar!!

Also stories of push fit doing this proberly relate to ones not fitted with the correct inserts . . .

Also I would not skimp when fitting push fit and will get the best (ie JG) - however you go for cheaper bargain buckets of compression or solder ing fittings.

 

[spanner]

I've tried JG a few times, and must sat I think they're one "gogo good good" fitting easy, and always if you make get any mistakes are always easy reassembled. Plus the one thing I must rememberd here is always use a pipe support fitting for the pipe being used. So if you were to be using H2o pipe and a JG coupling, use the recommended steel H2o pipe insert.

 

[Guest123]

There isn't anything too wrong with JG except the price, because it's expensive. The fittings are more expensive than Yorkies etc then you need to buy inserts and spend time making sure its well clipped. Time is saved slightly putting it all together, but it's real plus point is its ease of use.
I think that its snobbery from some that put it down all the time and I know a few that keep saying bad things about JG and they've never even used the stuff. As with all plumbing, use it in accordance with the manufacturers instructions and it won't cause problems. However I'm sticking to Barrier pipe as the jury is still out on polybutelyene and there are many law suits in America over failure of this pipe.
Only gripe is those damn rodents!