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I am at my wits end. Firstly I cannot find a plumber who will come and commission my new ST40 NuWay oil burner fitted to my Range Cooker. They all throw their hands up and say - ooohhhh noo, that's special, or I'm busy, or 'has it been installed by an OFTEC engineer"

Well, it hasn't. It was installed by me who happens to have installed a number of boilers over the years, including a wood burning stove that is connected to our water.

I have installed everything as per regulations; flue diameters, distance from combustibles, diameters of oil pipes, fire valves, electrical isolation etc. It has a fan flue from Exhausto. This has been installed and works with a pressure switch.


The new burner was install in the combustion chamber. Oil line purged. Pressure set to 115 pis as per instructions for the Range Cooker. air damper set to 5, as per instructions. Air inlet is room sealed outside - no blockage.
Flue is new, no blockage. Oil pipe allows oil to flow, I timed it at about 0.5 litre per minute, so way in excess of the 0.4 gph 80 nozzle. There are no air bubbles in it. The oil comes from a tank which supplies another boiler - the CH boiler. That works, and always has done, very well.

Problem. I cannot get the feck er to start. Start it up. The fan flue starts. Pressure switch then allows power to the burner once up to speed. THe burner pre-purges, oil pressure hits 115 psi, flames start, struggles for a bit, then pop goes the puff back and the lockout comes on. Try again, same thing. Pump works, solenoid works, air works. The only way I have manages to get the thing going in anyway is to turn the pressure right down - say 80psi, then lots of air and it fires but it is MAASIVELY sooty so turn off and clean the cooker out!

Boy have I struggled. Daily call to plumbers to commission it, no reponse. All they have to do is to turn up and adjust the settings and make it work. I cannot think what I have missed. The cooker manufacturer uses the fan flue all the time, so it is not too weak or strong for the cooker. I thought maybe the draught was too high and so the flame was bouncing on the nozzle, so I trimmed the fan flue right down and still not joy.

That's it. 5 weeks without hot food! Wifey is getting ****ed off. Anyone got any bright ideas what to try next. The can only be three things, oil, air and flue, unless there is something that I am missing like preying to the God Venus or something.

I can only think there must be a fan flue issue. Is it too strong? It is set to the miniumum setting which is 20 which is equivalent to 0.8 wa I think. The instrcutions say that I should set to 115psi and 5 air and this gives a slightly different reading to normal on the analyser, but I cant get the sodding thing fired up to get any blasted reading.

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh!

HELP

Kev
 
you just have advertised you self in public that you do ILLEGAL Work for which you can be PROSECUTED !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Thanks SafeGasInstall. You'll notice that I am trying to get a OFTEC plumber to commission it. You are perfectly allowed to install, as in - put in place, anything you like so long as you dont use it. I haven't used it. It is currently a green cupboard. If I can get a plumber to Self-certify it, then I will. Other than that, I will get buidling regs to inspect the work. None of that is illegal, and hence I can't be prosecuted - but hey, thanks for your helpful comment.
 
:) it's illegal to sertify illegal work,by the way!keep your hands off it!
This is all I will say!


:)
 
P.s:
You don' use it cos you can get it to work!!!!

Pls don't try to burn your house down !!!

Keep your hands of it!


:) :)
 
You could ring the manufacturer and get them to commission it.
Most offer this service.
 
safegasinstall......................... top marks for your spelling and grammar!

secondly, the bloke is trying to gain some information as to why his system is failing and all you have done is shoot him down due to illegal installations! If you read the post fully then you will realise that he has installed these systems before, The regulations state that you must be competent to install, how do you prove competency? and i am quietly confident that you can install in your own premises all be it your insurance would probably be void but not sure that you can call it illegal, it only becomes illegal when you do it for gain, i.e you get paid for the works so unless his wife is paying him then he is well within the law,

I wish i could point you in the right direction mate but oil is out of my speciality,

Maybe others on this forum could give some positive input rather than just start spouting ridiculous regulation talk. We are hammered with regulations and god damn paperwork and the last thing we should do is fire them all over the place because we have nothing positive to say or more the likely, have not got a clue!
 
safegasinstall......................... top marks for your spelling and grammar!

secondly, the bloke is trying to gain some information as to why his system is failing and all you have done is shoot him down due to illegal installations! If you read the post fully then you will realise that he has installed these systems before, The regulations state that you must be competent to install, how do you prove competency? and i am quietly confident that you can install in your own premises all be it your insurance would probably be void but not sure that you can call it illegal, it only becomes illegal when you do it for gain, i.e you get paid for the works so unless his wife is paying him then he is well within the law,

I wish i could point you in the right direction mate but oil is out of my speciality,

Maybe others on this forum could give some positive input rather than just start spouting ridiculous regulation talk. We are hammered with regulations and god damn paperwork and the last thing we should do is fire them all over the place because we have nothing positive to say or more the likely, have not got a clue!
 
As I understood. I'm no expert though. The system has to be commissioned (legally) by an Offtec registered person who then certifies the commissioning. But before this the diy installation should be notified to building control and inspected (for a fee). The Offtec registered technician should not commission or certify without evidence of the BCO certification.
 
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