The Green Deal

[diamondgas]

That'll sound reassuring for the smaller businesses kay-jay, thanks for that Do you know if you have to have any registration behind you, jump through any hoops, to be accepted by glowworm and those behind ECO?

 

[diamondgas]

Every big company and their dog is doing it Steve, even BandQ. It is a free for all for the big boys......

This will be worse than the warmfront fiasco and it will have a very bad impact on all the small guys.

I went to help out a guy doing his first 'green deal' and it was as you said, responsibility dumped on him, poor surveying and an intimidating 'jumped up' representative trying to crack the whip! He did the one and only then told them where to shove it! He's still awaiting payment.........!

They're taking advantage of those in need of work IMO.... Probably fleecing a load of profit into their own pockets at the same time? :32::32::furious3:

 

[CES]

That's exactly whats happening, lots of these "jobs" are being passed through an array of middlemen who claim to be "green experts" until they reach the installer who has to install, commission and deal with any remedials all for whats left in the pot, which usually is the square root of feck all. I wouldn't bother to be honest as IMO we are nearing the end of the helterskelter that was our industry. But then again its easy for me to say that as I'm out of it now.
An arrangement like Kayjays is probably the best route to take, given the circumstances at the moment.

 

[hammers4spanner]

Found this out today after a bit of snooping about , apparently 10% of manufacturers sales can go to the little one man bands under a grant how it works not to sure other than for starters you need to be an approved installer of manufacturers boiler.

gonna nose into it more tmoz

 

[aligorgon]

i signed up through a middle man Loft & Cavity Wall InsulationCentral Heating & BoilersGreen Deal AdviceAll of your energy needs! - Greener energy efficiency measures available under ECO and Green Deal funding. you can use thier pas regisgration. u just need gas safe reg and pl. you get 275 for a terrace 300 for asemi.
i worked out about 90 for mats and fuel. any revisits are downto you. and majority of jobs i ase
sessed were for ethnic minorities out for a imagined freebie. i coul foresee all kinds of problems with custs eg radiator that hasnt worked for 20 yrs becomes your problem.

i was about to do 1st job and was getti ng messed around and *£¥/ed them off

 

[hammers4spanner]

i signed up through a middle man Loft & Cavity Wall InsulationCentral Heating & BoilersGreen Deal AdviceAll of your energy needs! - Greener energy efficiency measures available under ECO and Green Deal funding. you can use thier pas regisgration. u just need gas safe reg and pl. you get 275 for a terrace 300 for asemi.
i worked out about 90 for mats and fuel. any revisits are downto you. and majority of jobs i ase
sessed were for ethnic minorities out for a imagined freebie. i coul foresee all kinds of problems with custs eg radiator that hasnt worked for 20 yrs becomes your problem.

i was about to do 1st job and was getti ng messed around and *£¥/ed them off

so in other words it is a disguise for warm front

 

[diamondgas]

It's a way of dangling a hook to those in need to make money in my opinion! Your then caught and abused until they don't want you anymore... May make a bit but not quite enough to say NO! Bit like a slave, feed them enough but not too much so they're satisfied!!!!

 

[diamondgas]

I was wondering what it was about this 'deal' that niggled me..! I then thought of those trying to make a living, just managing to get by with a sh*ty heating boiler that's costing them a fortune..... They don't qualify so have to fork out themselves .......! To me there's something wrong when a Landlord can 'Lord it up' on a pretty decent income whilst their tenants live in squalor! then along comes a 'freebee' and although they can afford to do the work for their tenants but choose not too, suddenly Decide to take advantage of this scheme .... !!! There's something not quite right there IMHO

 

[hammers4spanner]

This scheme stinks imo !!!

 

[aligorgon]

I have told them a few times to take me off thier email list but just had this one through... sounds like they are pushing the installers to condemn the existing boilers for no services records??? etc. in order to rush the installs through

HI All

we are starting the new fund run by us middle of next week , we have payment within 2 weeks after each weeks submission so this will shorten the pay scale to around 3 weeks – 28days . The pay is £225.00 an install for terrace and £250.00 for others , we order all the parts indicated on your pre survey report the correct ofgem form and survey is attached all boiler are being provided without direct cost to us and we will be fitting Baxi duo tec / system and heat only do not require sparky as they have digital thermo and clock , you will get a 20 m flex flu extension and an inline filter and flu .

You can never order parts from our account ever , it is a sack able offence, any parts ordered on survey that do not appear on the job will cause us to end your employment and the cost will be taken from your wages, any parts you forget on the survey you will provide yourselves, we have employed semi retired engineers to spot check work for parts ordered this is due to theft from the last set of installs .

I cannot stress enough that the paperwork must be returned each evening or by 7.00am the next day, failure to do so will stop your installs for the next day ( no exceptions ) late paperwork will incur fines of £10.00 for every day late and / or end your employment with us, so get a scanner before you start up , a boiler installed without paperwork cannot be paid by the provider or us so you will be wasting your time, each document must be sent on one email and individual photos 1 email per home fitted for the new iPad submission software , if your not sure how to fill out the paperwork you need to ask us before you attempt to do a fit .

New paperwork to follow before Monday

Under the following conditions you must condemn the boiler put a sticker on it and cap off gas, although some are a little over zealous the rules recently have been tightened listing other faults as well . (this will be starting from 21[SUP]st[/SUP] June 2013-next Friday)

PARTS OF FLU HIDDEN NO HATCH
ROOM SEALED BOILERS ( as above )
INSUFFCIANT COOLING / VENTING
EXCESS CARBON MONO ( of course) flu analyser fails .
INLET PRESSURE –DUE TO UNDERSIZE GAS SUPPLY
MECHANICAL STABILITY PROBLEMS ( loose fitting boiler )
CHEMICAL GAS DAMAGE
GAS LEAK
NOT BEEN SERVICED REGUALARY ( this could be common must see proof or condemn )
WORN THERMOCOUPLE
CORODED FLU
CASING DETERIATION

A condemned sticker is required and give the customer a copy of gas check find out if they have a secondary heating system to tide them over for a maximum of 5 days before you reinstall of new boiler, all condemned boilers will be fast tracked to install.


Kind Regards