DIY Gas Fitting

[mountainman]

you wouldnt be checking a non qualified persons work as they are not registered so wouldnt know!

the regs say you cannot be employed (including self) if you are not registered with gas safe. so regardless of the competence thing you MUST be registered

Correct!
End of discussion IMO.

 

[truemanufan]

To just sum up basically, if u do DIY gas installations, you are a clown! End of

 

[ManchesterGas]

You are only deemed 'competent' if you have passed ACS and are registered with Gas Safe

 

[Bernie2]

How can you know when you service a gas system who put it in? How do you know a none ACS apprentice never installed it under supervision?

Many systems over 20 years old where installed by none registered people. It is the standard of work that matter's not qualification. It is true if your paid to do a job you have to be Gas Safe registered but DIYers can still do it in their own home. If you never knew who installed the system you would never know who had done it.

Suppose a gas fitter with 30 years experience installed a system but their registration had lapsed and a three month registered gas fitter installed a system would you fail the 30 year persons system if the systems were both of the same standard?

So you would look to see if it complied with the regulations and pass it, if you never, you would have to declare every system you met ID and turn it off, because you did not know if the person who installed it was ACS or not.

Try that with a big landlord and you will probably soon find yourself out of work. The operative word is "Safe" you are employed to decide whether it is "Safe" or not, not who is qualified or not.

Why do we suppose both CORGI and GAS SAFE want to see your work even after registration and proof of qualification?
A Gas escape is not concerned with regulations but good work makes a system safer. So look at the quality not the qualification.

 

[mountainman]

Who worked on the installation previously is irrelevant.
It is currently the law that anyone who works on gas systems must be GSR. experience and competence are a bonus.

 

[Bernie2]

That is true mountainman. If you get paid for gas work you have to be registered. The operative word is paid. CORGI and Gas Safe both usually inspect your work after registration. Why would they do that if quality of work was not an issue?

If registration and qualification alone where the answer to anything would we have so many car accidents? The reason Gas Safe inspectors are probably
not all over the place inspecting work quality is cost not perhaps because they would not like to be.

Competence is a mute point, I have never asked a doctor if they are competent or asked to see their registration I just assume they are competent because they have set themselves up as a doctor.

I think in English law you have duty of care to be able to do what you say you can.
So if you work on gas you must be able to do so to meet the requirements of The Gas Regs. The blame is on you if you can't whether registered or not. It would be no use claiming "I am qualified as a defence in the case of an accident!" The accident would probably serve as proof you weren't. So quality of work is a big issue.

A bit like a well qualified baker saying "I bake lovely cakes!" How do you know unless you eat one?


That is what companies want "Good work and few if any come backs" Having practical skill knowledge in our heads is not much use to a customer if we can't turn it into real quality work.

 

[fuzzy]

Correct!
End of discussion IMO.

yes it is correct for people 'working' on gas making money. If your doing it for yourself you do not have to be registered, only competent

 

[fuzzy]

You are only deemed 'competent' if you have passed ACS and are registered with Gas Safe

why can you not be competent, passed your ACS and not registered? nothing wrong with doing that and working on your own gas

 

[fuzzy]

To just sum up basically, if u do DIY gas installations, you are a clown! End of

if your competent and do your own DIY installation whats the problem? registered or not, your not breaking any rules are you are working as safe as somebody who is registered

 

[fuzzy]

Who worked on the installation previously is irrelevant.
It is currently the law that anyone who works on gas systems must be GSR. experience and competence are a bonus.

wrong, you dont have to be GSR to work on gas