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Hi there,

I've recently done the plumbing in my newly renovated bathroom and thought I'd have a go at the renovated kitchen. All was going well until I managed to move a 15mm cold water pipe and cause the stopcock to drip! I managed to stop the drip but am nervous about continuing to experiment! If I mess up the stopcock I'm seriously messed up. I really didn't want to call a plumber in if possible as I'm trying to learn from my mistakes


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So, my gas man had encouraged me to use quick fit plumbing fittings and I wanted to simply add a 15mm equal tee to the cold water line for my new dishwasher. I bought the Speedfit part and when I tried to fit it...things went downhill.

i carefully measured where to cut the pipe and tried to get both ends onto the pipe and then screw it back together...but without success.

I'm sure I've made a massive mess...and I now have no water because I can't put it back together!

Please see the attached photo and advise if you can.

Thanks a lot,

Taryn

(I thought about adding a few elbows which could work but would be completely bizarre and messy I'm sure).
 
whats your problem you cant get the cap back onto the t or is it leaking?
 
That grab ring is far too far down the pipe!! Your not meant to dismantle the joint even!
 
Thanks....I can't get the plastic sides back on as I used a wrench but thought I was damaging the thread. (I didn't want to call my gas man on a Saturday night as it's my fault and not an emergency!!)
 
Oh okay....I dismantled a 22mm one yesterday and managed to put it back together without any leaks. Damn....I guess that's why I can't get it to work. Anyone know how to add a tee with push fit?
 
Do it in copper & you could have eliminated the earth bonding with that one plastic joint,..
 
Thanks! I didn't know what a slip tee was...ill get one of those and then get my electrician to check earthing for me...very good point!! Thanks.
 
First I hope you used a pipe slice to cut the tube as a hacksaw will leave a ragged edge which could damage the O ring seal in the push fit coupling. As you have found out, in order to connect the coupling the pipes have to be moved apart then brought back together again. If you have an adjustable spanner, close the jaws so it just fits the 15mm pipe, place it behind the white fitting on the left and push fitting off end of pipe. Provided your pressure is on the inner collar at the back it will remove O ring and grab ring at the same time. Pressure on the wide part of the fitting will just make grab ring grip harder. Once removed reassemble and try again.
 
Obviously if you're joining copper to copper no insert required
 
That's almost done...I just have a couple of fittings from my shower valve that are leaking very slowly. I can't seem to get the right amount of PTFE tape...(I think that's the issue) Sorry...can't get photo turned round.
 

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Taryn Hauritz said:
That's almost done...I just have a couple of fittings from my shower valve that are leaking very slowly. I can't seem to get the right amount of PTFE tape...(I think that's the issue) Sorry...can't get photo turned round.
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Find your stopcock out in the street or if you live in a flat it will be in the lobby maybe. Make sure it turns off the supply to your property. Then if you get a leak inside or break something, you can turn it off and repair at your leisure.
 
kozak1968 said:
Why not? If it stops a leak its fine.
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if a comp joint starts leaking theres somthing wrong eg wrong olive, not pushed all the way in or cheap joint out of spec
 
So interesting....I'm a recent convert to the joys of plumbing and am trying to learn all I can. That makes sense with compression fittings as I wondered why most of them didn't have tape. Can you use too much tape? It seems that sometimes I have put too much and it doesn't screw in that much. If it doesn't leak I guess that's okay! Also, is it standard practice to tape the olive rather than the screw bit? Thanks!
 
joni os said:
Good point regarding olives and out of spec. fittings. Becoming more common in recent years.
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thats why i only use Kuterlite a tad more but least if it leaks its your own fault and not some cheap fitting
 
ShaunCorbs said:
thats why i only use Kuterlite a tad more but least if it leaks its your own fault and not some cheap fitting
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You and your fancy kuterlite... Someone will be along to tell you to get off that high horse again soon hehe ;)
 
If you've got to tape a compression fitting, tape the olive, 2-3 turns, never the thread. Better use Jet Blue paste.
 
Get yourself some jointing compound for your compression fittings. PTFE is a waste of time
 
I tape every olive on my compression fittings. No point having a leak for the sake of it! It has saved me many many times in the past.
 
Harry Askham said:
I tape every olive on my compression fittings. No point having a leak for the sake of it! It has saved me many many times in the past.
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I`m with you here, taking into account mine are all old joints which I`ve undone I always add 2 wraps of PTFE around the olive for peace of mind, don`t wanna have to go back because of a slight weep, also find it less messy than a paste.
 
KingDoey said:
Just personal preference. Don't understand what putpose ptfe serves on a compression fitting?
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Some fittings are nowhere near as good as they used to be and guess you`ve never taken an old joint apart and looked at the mating face`s then.
 
rpm said:
Some fittings are nowhere near as good as they used to be and guess you`ve never taken an old joint apart and looked at the mating face`s then.
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too true they dont make them like the good old days
 
When the fitting is in an awkward spot and you cant be bothered to struggle getting tape round the olive, you immediately regret it when you turn the water on lol! A TINY drip that doesn't ever stop..
 
Harry Askham said:
When the fitting is in an awkward spot and you cant be bothered to struggle getting tape round the olive, you immediately regret it when you turn the water on lol! A TINY drip that doesn't ever stop..
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With a little practise you can tear a 2" strip off the reel if it makes it easier to get it on the olive.
 
rpm said:
Some fittings are nowhere near as good as they used to be and guess you`ve never taken an old joint apart and looked at the mating face`s then.
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Indeed I have. I always put a bit of jet on the mating faces. Like i say personal preference whatever works for the individual
 
Indeed I have. I always put a bit of jet on the mating faces. Like i say personal preference whatever works for the individual
 
KingDoey said:
Indeed I have. I always put a bit of jet on the mating faces. Like i say personal preference whatever works for the individual
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It`s a personal thing as you say, I prefer the tape over using paste.
 
What I ask myself is: 'Which of the two is good for my health?' PTFE is just that, a thread, whereas a paste of any sort will let traces filter into my system now & again. I know which one I will prefer!! The PTFE tape
 
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