T4TS Course..If your on it get in touch

[whitenoise]

Hi Everyone IM Whitenoise!

Im on the T4TS course.

I started a few months ago and now I've managed to get to Mod 10, I'm really enjoying the course struggling a tiny bit with all the reading lol I'm sure I recall the salesman telling me its reading as well as hands on! but so far no hands on just computer based scenarios which aint too bad but having a go at the real thing would be more ideal but Hey ho slowly slowly catchie monkey, I'll just follow how the coutrse is laid out and see if it works, Obvioulsy I'm really hoping to pass the course in time, I'm taking my time but I'm really looking forward to getting my hands on very soon I keep wanting to pop to B&Q to get some pipes and play around, I was hoping to meet anyone else who is also on the course! see how your getting on and maybe just have a general chat about the grand world of plumbing lolol.

If you read this but dont get in touch hope all goes well and you pass your course are successful.

Regards

Whitenoise

 

[robdavis]

By the way, good luck to everyone on the course.

I would like to hear about other people's experiences and what hurdles they come across once finished.

 

[bl1ngboi]

hi all doing thr T4TS coures

I started the coures about 2 months ago. just started to do the scenario 3, an a bit stuck on the soundness checks can anyone help

underneath the sinh near the hot and cold pipe for the washing machine. you pressure check.turn tap on,check again,turn off,check again. hope this helped

 

[dan22]

TO ALL ON THESE TYPE OF COURSES. ALL I HAVE TO SAY IS COULD YOU READ A BOOK ABOUT HOW TO DRIVE A CAR AND ONCE READ GO OUT AND DRIVE.....ERR NO, SO WHY DO YOU THINK YOU CAN READ BOOKS THEN GO WORK AS A PLUMBER AND KNOW WHAT TO DO, TO A GOOD STANDARD AT MINIMUM.

 

[plumber2b]

TO ALL ON THESE TYPE OF COURSES. ALL I HAVE TO SAY IS COULD YOU READ A BOOK ABOUT HOW TO DRIVE A CAR AND ONCE READ GO OUT AND DRIVE.....ERR NO, SO WHY DO YOU THINK YOU CAN READ BOOKS THEN GO WORK AS A PLUMBER AND KNOW WHAT TO DO, TO A GOOD STANDARD AT MINIMUM.

Of course you would't be able to jump into a car and drive after reading a book about how to drive, that is why you have to pass the practical first. Do you know that you can learn how to drive in a week if you go on a intensive course? Imagine that. We are also going to be checked on our standard along the way, I believe with good practice we can also become good plumbers. Don't knock people down because of the path they chose we are only taking advantage of this opportunity of remote training as some of us can't afford to go to college whilst olding a job to provide for the family.

I've started T4TS course C & G 6129 Level 2 & 3 7 months ago and I'm enjoying it. I know I can't just walk into a job once I finished, that is why I am now doin'g some voluntary work once a week with my local plumber. When I finish my course I'm looking to go down the sole trader route to start with. It's not going to be easy but I will give it a good go. GOOD LUCK EVERY ONE!






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[dan22]

I totally understand what your saying but i was going on a similar course to this one and it was costing the same as another course i seen that was all practical basically. plus this place guranteed a work placement in your local area. all im saying is to ppl thinking of joining these courses look around first. i did research for over a year before i selected a company called brookhouse training. look em up brookhousetraining.com but goodluck to anyone who chooses this type of learning i dont knock you at all but i just think theres better options if you just dont rush in.

 

[plumber2b]

Fair enough Dan.

 

[spanner]

underneath the sinh near the hot and cold pipe for the washing machine. you pressure check.turn tap on,check again,turn off,check again. hope this helped

Hi mate I've competed that module already but aint checked it out for eeeges..yea its a bit trikky but you have to do a hot soundness and cold checks, and don't forget to plug unplug the hot secondary vents as this was where I found to have got stukk!!T4Ts I think's all good. Ok gonna run thre CD again and see how I do in that module as I can remember you need to complete the module before you can get another code to move on.. llol

 

[student plumber]

I'm on it doing mod 5 at the moment and doing some research on the net, some of what's in the book seems a bit scarce of info so encourages me to look a bit deaper, but had some computer problems.

At the time there seemed to be no other way for me to get in and research turned up no leads, but thinking about it this is probably the best way for me to learn the theory rather than turn up at the training centre and not know one end of a pipe bender than another, lol.

Seriously though, it's good for the theory in my opinion, the trouble and the hard work begins getting some proper work in later, but just have to wait and see how it goes.

 

[gmar]

Hey just about to finnish the first book mod 4. was wondering at the end of the course what are we actually going to be qualified to do?
apperantly the domestic plumber course gives you all the tech certs but does NOT certify you to NVQ level 2 C&G 6089. to get to this level you need to be certified while working on jobs under the supervision of a qualified plumber. so according to some people ive spoke to this is not a qualified plumber.
train 4 trades are not very clear about this and its hard to get that info from them. they try and sell you another course after the basic plumbing one so that you can be qualified to level 2 NVQ, which seems to be another £1500.
anybody know for sure what the situation is with this, as its causing me a bit of stress?

 

[tamz]

Does nobody signing up for these courses ever bother to find out or research exactly what you are getting for your money before parting with it?

 

[fuzzy]

tamz, ive pointed this out before and got called 'negative'!! apparently its negative to say your only getting a tech cert and this isnt industry recognised. only for the to part with their money and then near the end say, hey im only getting a tech cert, i thought id be a plumber for £5k the salesman err i mean advisor told me

 

[tamz]

We'll wait for the daytime telly ads in a year or two

Have you had a plumbing course in the last xx years? Call dodgy lawyers today on 08xxxxxxx for an immediate consultation

 

[spanner]

Hey hows it going .... how far vare we ??? Get in touch ok or drop me a line..

 

[PlumbBobBob]

who you talking to?

 

[spanner]

Sorry stevo musta filled wrong header in, still got to use the site properly ..!

 

[PlumbBobBob]

no probs

 

[fuzzy]

most feedback has suggested websites dont work well, this is the first post ive seen saying it has paid off

 

[student plumber]

Does nobody signing up for these courses ever bother to find out or research exactly what you are getting for your money before parting with it?

I tried it and got no luck, I ended up with information on dodgy products, holidays and everything else, but not T4TS or any other training provider.

 

[tamz]

Now i don't know much about these different certificates as things have changed a lot since i did mine and even when i employ an apprentice they just go to collage and get their SVQ and a JIB card.
But
It took less than a minute to find these

Plumbing Course - Train to be a Plumber with Train4TradeSkills
Bottom line of 2nd last paragraph.

[DLMURL="http://www.cityandguilds.com/48182.html#"]Certificate in Plumbing | Plumbing | City & Guilds |[/DLMURL]
Click on "Your questions"
Then "which level is right for me"
Then if you are thinking of spending a lot of money on this read through the Key Document at the bottom.

"You can be confident your qualification is well respected within your industry."
Don't believe that bit.

 

[Nelson Silva]

Hi i need help for the senario 1 . complete cold water system

 

[beanie88]

Hi i need help for the senario 1 . complete cold water system

The idea is that you complete the scenario by trial and error; lets think about this in the loft we have 4 items
1. Expansion tank float valve
2. Float valve isolation valve
3. C.W.S.T float valve
4. C.W.S.T float isolation valve
COMPLETE
Next Family Bathroom 6 items
1. Bath cold tap
2. Bath cold tap isolation valve
3. Basin cold tap
4. Basin tap isolation valve
5. Toilet cistern float valve
6. Toilet float isolation valve
COMPLETE
Cloak Room 4 items
1. Basin cold tap
2. Basin cold tap isolation valve
3. Toilet cistern float valve
4. Toilet float isolation valve
COMPLETE
Kitchen
1. Sink cold tap 5items
2. Sink cold tap isolation valve
3. Washing machine cold valve (blue)
4. Main stopcock
5. Drain cock

COMPLETE
So all you have to do is click on an item above and click inspect that's it
Well I trust this helps you complete the scenario, if it does you will get a congratulations message, at this screen you will see a completion code, note this code and enter it on this site to receive the code for the next scenario
Good Luck

 

[chrispg]

hi im on the course on the cenario for soundness testing at mo cant seem to find where the pressure test is and where it goes any ideas?
or am i just being stupid and not looking properly(thought i looked every where lol)

cheers chris

 

[beanie88]

hi im on the course on the cenario for soundness testing at mo cant seem to find where the pressure test is and where it goes any ideas?
or am i just being stupid and not looking properly(thought i looked every where lol)

cheers chris

First you should have completed setting and checking temperatures of all hot water taps.
Now for the hot water system check, so we need too now click on and click inspect 18 separate items, you have been told 2 in loft, have a think it. What 2 items are part of your domestic Hot water system?
ANSWER
The float valve and isolation valve for the cold-water storage cistern, (this feeds the hot water cylinder)
FAMILY BATHROOM
So we have 4, 2 x hot taps and 2 x hot tap isolation valves.
AIRING CUPBOARD
We have 5 items in this compartment, remember we are doing the domestic hot system not the boiler/heating system so gate valve, immersion heater, 3 port valve, cylinder stat and cylinder drain cock.
CLOAKROOM
We only have 2 in this room 1 x hot tap, 1 x hot tap isolation valve,
KITCHEN
Here we have the last 5, instant water heater and it's isolation valve, hot tap and it's isolation valve and the last item washing machine valve.
So now the task is complete.
END SCENARIO

i emailed the tutor's and this is what i got.
stu

 

[chrispg]

thats the cenario before done that ta!!!

 

[beanie88]

have you tried the washing machine?? do a cold water system check too. thats how i found this one out.

 

[Kams82]

Hi Whitenoise, I started my plumbing course 11 Months ago just completed assignment for module 9, I was struggling a little with making notes, I know that the best thing to do is make keypoint notes in the learning log, only thing is that the difficulty I am having is working out what will be important information for the exam. Since you must have complete the course by now please let me know what I can expect at the training and assessment centre also when you were revising for your exams, did you get any revision note handouts from the training and assessment centre. I hope I hear from you soon.

Kams.

 

[Jamie Banks]

Just finished 32 modules/ water regs/ Part L and 6 weeks of practicals - so all finished - just waiting for portfolio to be IV'd and has to go back to where i did my weeks so bit of a pain.

Views - practicals done with ATL good

Books ok but had to buy extra to make the exams easier, recommend the Learn a trade cd

T4TS not bad but didnt really do much once they had my signiture

If more questions need to be answered then pm me and will try to answer them


So whats next

 

[Kams82]

Just finished 32 modules/ water regs/ Part L and 6 weeks of practicals - so all finished - just waiting for portfolio to be IV'd and has to go back to where i did my weeks so bit of a pain.

Views - practicals done with ATL good

Books ok but had to buy extra to make the exams easier, recommend the Learn a trade cd

T4TS not bad but didnt really do much once they had my signiture

If more questions need to be answered then pm me and will try to answer them


So whats next

Hi Jamie

I am nearing completion of part 1 but am finding it a little difficult because although the T4TS books are good and have lots of activities and progress checks to measure knowledge they dont point out out whats going to appear in the exam and what we need to know so when making notes its difficult to make them key pointers to revise when go back through the modules to revise I have been reading and working through activities and progress checks but I know that more needs to be done if I want to get through part 1 of the course please let me know what you did when you were preparing for part 1's exam.

 

[Jamie Banks]

Kams82

When you say part 1 what exactly do you mean - is it partical session 1 or module 1 - I personnally found the Learn a trade cd particulary good but it is £15, also had the smart screen online assessment which you can get the details from a tutor at ATL on and also used the Heimen Revision book from amazon for £14 as this is small amounts of detail on each exam but tells you exactly what you need to know. If you need any further links or advice contact me and I will send them to you - Good Luck.

Jamie

 

[Kams82]

Hi jamie

Sorry about missing that bit of detail, I have almost finished part 1 in relation to the modules I have just recently submitted my assignment for module 9, and am waiting for the code to get on to module 10. As I was saying in my previous post the T4TS books although good dont point out in a clear manner what exactly needs to be known for the exams. Also if the Heinemann Revision Guide has what I am look for I will get it with hopes that It will help me to make good notes for the exam. Please let me know where I can get ahold of the Learn a trade CD, I suppose smart screen assessment will only be given to me when I get to ATL's training centre. I have already asked a tutor at T4TS for what is covered in the exam hopefully what they provided will assist me in preparing for the exam.

Kams.