HELP , boiler trips house electricity when turned on

[SafeGasInstall]

Will be quicker for you to get the pro in

 

[sam423]

Valve not dripping.valve is working so is the pump

 

[sam423]

Again I have isolated everything possible except the new fuel box and it still trips

 

[dontknowitall]

Again I have isolated everything possible except the new fuel box and it still trips

Including the pump?

 

[sam423]

Including the pump?

why would i need to disconnect the pump when i know that it works?????????:banghead:

 

[Dannypipe]

why would i need to disconnect the pump when i know that it works?????????:banghead:

It could still have a fault on the wiring and still work.

 

[sam423]

It could still have a fault on the wiring and still work.

really??? but if i disconnect the pump then the boiler wouldnt fire up would it??

 

[lame plumber]

really??? but if i disconnect the pump then the boiler wouldnt fire up would it??

I think he is referring to the CH/grunfoss type pump!

 

[dontknowitall]

This ain't the first time I've wondered why I bother.

I don't pretend to know all the answers and I never said it was the pump. I was just asking whether ...

Oh never mind! My post was ignored in the first place :smile:

 

[SimonG]

This is just going round and round. Your'e not going to be able to fix it yourself. Nobody on here is in Spain to have a look. Get somebody in who knows what they are doing.

 

[Bunker]

Its must be the flux capacitor then?

 

[sam423]

OMG , WHY IS EVERYONE SO TOUCHY ON HERE??? is it that time of the month or what?:cheesy:

AGAIN I am not trying to fix it myself
AGAIN circ pump and valves fine
AGAIN have been eliminating with my engineer
AND is there a rule against uk citizens who live in spain to not be members on here? not looking to employ any of you guys anyway , just after a bit of your advice like you do on forums, its not a job center.
It gets a bit clicky on here doesnt it? and not a nice atmosphere for new members.

Thankyou again to the guys i thanked, MY ENGINEER is going to stick in the 2nd hand burner, will let you know what happens.ADIOS.

 

[dontknowitall]

Adios!!

 

[lame plumber]

This ain't the first time I've wondered why I bother.

I don't pretend to know all the answers and I never said it was the pump. I was just asking whether ...

Oh never mind! My post was ignored in the first place :smile:

did you say something, whats that? anyone there?

 

[dontknowitall]

did you say something, whats that? anyone there?

Moi? :smile:

 

[lame plumber]

Moi? :smile:

need to change your mouth wash, then people can talk to you face to face :29::29:


c'mon lets go to another thread, then you can get ignored there and really get a complex

 

[SimonG]

Looks like it's just the good engineers on here then.

A good engineer in Spain would make a mint

 

[dontknowitall]

Looks like it's just the good engineers on here then...

I'll sign off quickly, Simon, just in case I get in the way!!

 

[Dannypipe]

I think he is referring to the CH/grunfoss type pump!

Correct. I've kind of lost interest anyway now though!

 

[sam423]

:grouphug: :crazy: :chillpill: :shades_smile:

 

[b.lynch plum]

Again I have isolated everything poss get ible except the new fuel box and it still trips

I would get a spark in and ohm out from the start check wot curve barker you got in hear all the way to the casing on the boiler and parts mate

 

[sam423]

I would get a spark in and ohm out from the start check wot curve
barker you got in hear all the way to the casing on the boiler and parts mate

Wots a curve barker?

 

[b.lynch plum]

Each braker has a curve type but can still have the same amp so so each one trips at a diffrent point in the curve EG 20amp type C curve or type B and so on. Google it if you want to know more or just go into a supplyers and ask and see if you put the right one in for start I have once or twice bin given the wrong type by newys and put it in and stuff trips out once it reaches the point

 

[on31ll]

OMG , WHY IS EVERYONE SO TOUCHY ON HERE??? is it that time of the month or what?:cheesy:

AGAIN I am not trying to fix it myself.

your not trying to fix it yourself ? but you really are ! what you planning on doing finding the problem then callin an engineer to fix it ?

 

[sam423]

funny you should say that, the house tripped out today with nothing on but the fridge.

coz of the crisis here guys are graftin for peanuts, my sparky was only charging 6 euros an hour to re wire the house :shocked:. i thought he was trying to make a bit extra on a few items so i decided to get all the gear myself from ebay which was loads cheaper, been working fine for 8 months but one of the items was a mains breaker i think (i'm crap at electrical terms) its the 1st one in the box which is a quadruple switch which he bought but then he wanted 250 euros for the 'rcd' switch, as my house is on '3 phase' i didnt know if he was ripping me off so i got a 'RCD 4 Pole 40A 30mA' for £20 new which the seller said was fine for me.
whenever the boiler tripped it tripped the quad swith and never the 'rcd'
toadoy the same happened with nothing on but the fridge.

 

[stoker122]

6 euros an hour and you still needed to supply materials because it is expensive!

 

[sam423]

read it again, he was cheap but his materials were not.250 euros for a trip switch raised a few alarms.

 

[stoker122]

My point was more about paying peanuts.
Screwed the sparks down on price and bought cheap from fleabay.
At least it lasted 8 months, what will the spark charge to put it right?

i thought he was trying to make a bit extra on a few items so i decided to get all the gear myself from ebay which was loads cheaper, been working fine for 8 months but one of the items was a mains breaker i think

 

[sam423]

errrrrrr 6 euros per hour :stupid::stupid::stupid:

 

[stoker122]

Nice concise well thought out reply, well done.

 

[b.lynch plum]

I would get ya spark or new one to check out your borad, feel you have got the wrong stuff and overloaded mate,

 

[Dannypipe]

I don't know why you're still trying to help this guy. His attitude stinks. Arrogant and stupid. Not a good combination.

 

[lame plumber]

seems that he's getting his come uppance, cheap parts now failing, bet the sparks would charge more than 6 euros an hour to go back.

 

[sam423]

I don't know why you're still trying to help this guy. His attitude stinks. Arrogant and stupid. Not a good combination.

:bigcry:



:asshole:

 

[sam423]

Pipe down danny boy, thought u lost interest? :hand:

 

[b.lynch plum]

:bigcry:



:asshole:

You do come across like you don't respect or understand wot folks on hear r trying to say to you as folks on hear just don't want you doing things wrong and want you to do it right, so you learn that cheap aint right and paying some1 to come and do jobs you don't understand so y try and brake tradsman balls by driven there price down? It cost for good workers

 

[TBServices]

If I wasn't likely to get an infraction, I'd say he was an ignorant fourletterwordbeginingwithT. A thoroughly bad apple.

Admit defeat and hire someone who actually has a clue.

 

[tamz]

Nice concise

I first read that as nice conscience and thought you must be joking.
Not if he is willing to drive a tradesmans rate down to 6€/hr (just over a fiver).
I hope the spark has more sense and more work the next time he is approached and tells the OP to fk off.

 

[stoker122]

If I wasn't likely to get an infraction, I'd say he was an ignorant fourletterwordbeginingwithT. A thoroughly bad apple.

Admit defeat and hire someone who actually has a clue.

Troll is 5 letters TB.

 

[on31ll]

i prefer another word danny ! why are you coming on the forums ? your attitude stinks mate and youve done nothing but slag others and slag the advice ! if nothing was on today except the fridge and it tripped then your whole house is goosed it shouldnt trip turning up your room stat either ! so get your electrician on 6 euros an hour to do the job properly ! while hes there get him to fit you second hand ebay parts to your new boiler ! problem solved all is happy because the fix wont cost you much ! you cheapskate !

 

[Bunker]

Not if he is willing to drive a tradesmans rate down to 6€/hr (just over a fiver).

Not wanting to play devils advocate too much, but he is in Spain and maybe €6 an hour is ok there?

 

[tamz]

6€/hr is slave labour anywhere in the western world.
People have to live and deserve to be paid a decent rate. I'd bet the OP wouldn't get up for a **** in the night for 6€
Things are going the same way here as you'll find out soon when your BP projections don't add up.

 

[on31ll]

Its a complete and utter joke ! I wouldnt want to pay sombody that ! Its not fair in places like that the poorer get poorer and the rich get richer !

 

[Dotty]

Closing this thread before anyone gets into bother.

 

[Lou]

I am updating threads. If this is not current then please visit the Oil & Solid Fuel Forum and post a new thread.

 

[simon70]

I currently have a similar emergency and since I know nothing, would be grateful for a steer. My mains supply was tripping and wouldn't stay on until I had disconnected the circuit containing my Camray 5 oil boiler.

The engineer from Southern Electricity has just been and confirmed a live-to-earthor live-to-neutral fault on the boiler, suggesting it might be caused by water ingress into the valve, pump, programmer or wiring. His resistance meter gave a 0.1 reading on the junction box in my outside boiler room, which he said should be at least 0.5 (megohms). He was not able to investigate further and suggested I call out a boiler engineer.

My boiler is serviced regularly by Emo Team Energy and on their most recent annual service visit a couple of months ago, they diagnosed a faulty oil pump which they duly replaced. Is it possible that this work - or the regular service - could have left me with a fault which could cause my power trips? I have had a couple of RCD trips since then but was able to re-set the RCD and carry on…until this week when the RCD refused to re-set until I had isolated the boiler.

The SEC engineer said that the problem could be caused by a drop or two of water gradually building up - and occasionally rectifying itself if the water dries out. If so, and I can trace it to the work done by Emo Team Energy, then they will obviously have to fix the problem FOC. But since I need to call them out to investigate, I can't be sure that their engineer will tell me the whole truth and nothing but.

Should I call in an independent engineer instead? That would possibly start a lengthy process of trying to recover his costs from Emo Team Energy, which wouldn't be ideal either.

And anyway, where do I find this superhero who not only fixes boilers but also diagnoses electrical and plumbing faults? I could be going round in circles forever - and I'm an OAP with no central heating or hot water.

Thanks for any advice.

 

[rpm]

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I would call them back first as doubt Emo would refund you third party costs.

 

[simon70]

I did call them - at 9am and again at 11am - but they weren't able to book an engineer out to me as they say they are snowed under with emergency work. I don't know how long it might take to get them here and, obviously, my emergency takes precedence over theirs. Hence I'm thinking I should try to find someone else who can get to me before I freeze.

 

[rpm]

Try Drayton Boilers & heating at Amen corner or CHAPS in Henley then (amongst others of course)

 

[simon70]

Thanks. CHAPS aren't answering but I'll keep trying. Drayton Boilers seem to be gas specialists - they don't mention oil on their website.