Blue & Orange syphon not shutting off properly....Help!

[RachH863]

Hi, I have fitted a new one and this hasnt really helped, Ive fiddled about with it and this hasnt really helped so now im completely stuck! Its a closed coupled toilet with an oval shaped push button flush, it flushes ok now but I cant stop the water from trickly into the pan continually. Any help would be magic!

 

[prs1]

ITs overflowing,just alter the water level in the cistern.

 

[RachH863]

HI there, its not over flowing, it does it even if there is a small amount of water in the cistern

 

[hihowudoin]

you say you have just fitted it, what make/model or if unknown some pictures would help ;-)

 

[RachH863]

Hi, I stupidly didnt take any pictures and dont know the name of it... It has a blue pole type thing in the middle that pushed up through a white circle and circled around the blue pole is a yellow cup, it also has a sort of float vale type looking upside down cup thing attached near the bottom and at either side two white poles - this is where you can unclip it and change it without taking the cistern off - best I can do im afraid.

 

[RachH863]

 

[WaterTight]

if you press down/lift the moving part of the flush valve with a little bit of force can you stop water trickling into the pan manually by holding the flush valve forcibly shut? if so the seal is not sealing as it should. a new one should have sorted the problem. so it might not been attatched properly or damaged?

if all else fails fit a fluidmaster.

 

[RachH863]

A fluidmaster you say? With an oval push button affair? The plumbers merchant said that the above was the only type I could use??

 

[PlumbBobBob]

he said that because it's all he had most probably.

 

[RachH863]

No they always have everything in stock, I was pointing to the one i wanted and he said they wouldnt work.....strange

 

[RachH863]

So a fluidmaster will work with the oval flush button?

 

[hihowudoin]

is it a specific brand of toilet, that you require that specific syphon, how does the flush operate, via cable, rods or air pipes ?
did you replace complete valve or just the part that clips off posts, if so could be seal in cistern failed and needs whole unit replacing

 

[RachH863]

What can I use then with the oval hole? Soory its oblong ppl oblong

 

[WaterTight]

You can't clip off and clip on a new valve unless it's the same one you've got in there. But you can install an entire new valve. This involves taking cistern off pan, removing entire valve and knowing what you're doing. Plenty of "how to" guides on net but most don't include the various things that can go wrong and tricks of the trade. It could go smoothly or it could be a nightmare. Cheapest thing would be to unclip, go back and say it's still happening. He may suggest what the problem is being able to see the item and have you describe the prob in person.

 

[RachH863]

Thanks, you can unclip the syphon but turns out it was the backnut wasnt sitting flush - think the cistern was mis moulded when made but the guy who installed it used a heap of silicone to seal it so this has never showed up until now, I just took that all off and used loads of PTFE and V2 and a new tighter nut and it sorted it! Thanks for help ppl