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I think I would AR it. Usually do with any repairs that involve going back with parts.
Even with water leaks in boiler, as you would want to isolate and drain, leave AR. If customer then says no, leave it going and signs AR paperwork, and it leaks onto PCB, then there's not really any argument.
if PCB has failed then I don't really know how you can leave it and say appliance is operating correctly?
As pcb is one unit. As pcb controls safety devices. The appliance has a defective damaged or inoperable safety device? ID !
As pcb is one unit. As pcb controls safety devices. The appliance has a defective damaged or inoperable safety device? ID !
if it wont turn off, then to my mind if it was to then run out of water due to a leak life would become interesting if it carried on running so unless you have proved the safety devices ie overheatstat,thermistors, gas failure on pcb etc all work its id in my small mind or at least ar, me i'd have turned it off and said leave alone till i have the parts.
Yeah IF the safety devices don't work IF it was to run out of water. How is that an immediate danger? If a 2 port is stuck open and the boiler is constantly running, do you ID that aswell, just incase some parts of the boiler decide to fail?
Yeah IF the safety devices don't work IF it was to run out of water. How is that an immediate danger? If a 2 port is stuck open and the boiler is constantly running, do you ID that aswell, just incase some parts of the boiler decide to fail?
any ffd failure in any form is ID. Same as cooker lids not shutting of the gas when closed.
I would test thermostat and ffd as well as other safety checks and if everything checked out then it can't possibly be immediately dangerous,how can you fail a boiler as ID for a faulty ffd when you've tested it and it's passed? A pcb is NOT a single component, 230v on a swl for ch demand does not = ignition! The ffd can, and will most likely, be 100% fine.
Even At Risk I think could be an excuse for not understanding the operation of the appliance adequately. Again 230v on a demand terminal doesn't mean the boiler is failing to utilise the low pressure sensor,flow switch,thermisters,overheat stat,flame rec,etc etc,all of which have to be satisfactory before ignition will commence in a modern combi . the likelihood is that the boiler is working fine,just stuck in CH,it's probably cycling fine off the boiler stat,probably modulating fan etc if it's got an air/gas ratio valve.
Ive had faulty selector switches on Baxis before,selecting hw only did nothing,with no programmer the boiler will fire constantly in ch and just cycle on/off its stat. So is that ID? Everything's working safely but there's a demand present where it shouldn't be?
working on whats been said a boiler with a blown fuse is id as your unable to test the safety devices
working on whats been said a boiler with a blown fuse is id as your unable to test the safety devices
working on whats been said a boiler with a blown fuse is id as your unable to test the safety devices
No, its At Risk. There is the potential for it to be unsafe but as it is non operational it cant possibly be ID unless leaking gas.
working on whats been said a boiler with a blown fuse is id as your unable to test the safety devices
Yeah but that's not what we are discussing. The FFD could be perfectly fine, and there has been no mention of it being faulty. If all the safety devices test ok then it is not ID. There is no immediate danger. The PCB controls a lot of things, just because one part of it is failing it doesn't mean its all knackered. The correct classification would be AR.
Is that why all their carbon copy pad pages are just a giant check box with the letters ID below?Bg are very skilled at interpreting rules and regs to there advantage.
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