Unsafe situations

[bewsh]

If I'm unable to test the boiler, then I at risk it, until I get it back up and running and then confirm safety devices, FGA, burner pressures/gas rate are all good.

 

[Aquazone]

I think even if you test all safety devices and everything is fine, then you still need to AR. You can't say the appliance is safe as you don't know what may happen when you leave.

Yes I understand this is the same as every visit to a boiler, but can you imagine if something bad happened to customer.

'So you knew boiler was faulty and left it on?'

'Well I checked safety devices and did all necessary checks and it was safe.'

'How can it be 100% safe if it's got a faulty component?'

For the sake of an AR paper, it's all done.

 

[solutions]

Bg are very skilled at interpreting rules and regs to there advantage.

Is that why all their carbon copy pad pages are just a giant check box with the letters ID below?

 

[dmheat]

So what if you visit a boiler with intermittent lockout.

All of your component tests are fine, your safety checks are perfect, you suspect a very intermittent fault on a PCB locking it out once or twice a month.

You would really isolate this appliance and AR it? It's not just an "AR paper" it's telling the customer their appliance is unsafe and will be turned off unless they refuse permission, however in doing so they could be contravening the GSIUR, and you will be making a written report stating clearly that the customer has refused for their appliance to be made safe.

When AR is described to a customer as it's supposed to be, it becomes much more than issuing a warning notice and telling your customer you're just leaving a bit of paper to cover your backside.

 

[GrahamM]

If you know the boiler is dangerous as per regs/unsafe-sits then ID.
If you suspect the boiler MAY be unsafe dangerous then AR as per above.
If boiler just not working as it should be then it is just that!

 

[Ermintrude]

Just located this in my van. By no stretch of the imagination is this right.

AR for a fused spur? NCS? I've ID a boiler for no thermostat and trvs ?

 

[dmheat]

Wow....lol. Oh you work for the ahem ahem! No wonder!

 

[Ermintrude]

I work for me !

 

[Nostrum]

Is this thread for real?

it sounds like paranoia is a big issue for gas engineers. At risk is for faults found that may cause a harm at some point, not faults that you've imagine may exist but are unable to find?

Some people choose to leave their heating on 247, does that mean we should A.R or I.D them and slap a sticker over their mouths?

As long as all the safety controls are fine then what's the problem?

 

[solutions]

The system is broken imho if anything is broken damaged not operating or not to current regulations it should be off till it meets the regs regardless of how trivial. As far as classifying the inability to turn the heating off on the boilers own control switch depends on whether or not you consider the boilers controls and there function a safety feature. Given that if needed the boiler should be capable of being issolated from the mains at a fused spur probably not a big deal assuming as others havw said it is not presenting a dangerous situation and the other safety features are operable.