speedfit insert types question

[plumbduff]

I've been using the superseal types on 10mm pipe recently (belt and braces), however I have just got back from the merchants to discover they have given me the standard ones without the O ring, I'm considering whether to use them or not worrying whether the joints might fail in the future if I do. What advice can be given?

 

[plumber0808]

Should be fine if there speedfit inserts. Only seen the ones with washers on.
i don't use speed fit though

 

[fast phil]

I've been using the superseal types on 10mm pipe recently (belt and braces), however I have just got back from the merchants to discover they have given me the standard ones without the O ring, I'm considering whether to use them or not worrying whether the joints might fail in the future if I do. What advice can be given?

super seal in all speed fit joints too be sure it dont leak in the future

 

[lame plumber]

designed for diy market, addl orings etc, but if the company also produces normal inserts, why not use them, as long as you follow the instructions they all work ok. As far as superseal not leaking, a myth as Ive been going to a house where most of them are beginning to leak over time. Presumambly as the original installer didnt hydraulically pressurise the system iaw mfis!

 

[AWheating]

they are fine to use and must be used if compression fittings are fitted.

 

[kimbo]

I only use superseal if the pipe is not dead smooth it stops the slight weap when you push pipe through and catch on concrete.

 

[plumbduff]

designed for diy market, addl orings etc, but if the company also produces normal inserts, why not use them, as long as you follow the instructions they all work ok. As far as superseal not leaking, a myth as Ive been going to a house where most of them are beginning to leak over time. Presumambly as the original installer didnt hydraulically pressurise the system iaw mfis!

You mean pressure testing at 2 then 10 bar as recommended? - I did read that in the JG guide, sounds extreme and a bit dangerous -do people actually do that?

 

[lame plumber]

You mean pressure testing at 2 then 10 bar as recommended? - I did read that in the JG guide, sounds extreme and a bit dangerous -do people actually do that?

if you want your system to be warrantied if there is an issue later on. if not just wait for the custard to moan mr jgs to come out, cut off some of your fittings for analysis and for you to be repiping the property foc for the customer. as speedfit wont be paying anything. if the mfis state it, do it surely