Is there a gas engineer full tool bundle I can buy?

[Abgash]

Hi, I'm about to start a gas engineering course and I'm trying to buy all the tools beforehand. Does anyone else know if there's a full tool kit available from anywhere?

 

[Riley]

Buy what you need as you find you need it. Everyone works differently and has different techniques. Maybe pass your course first. Do you have a plumbing background??

 

[snowhead]

As above, because there are too many variables.

Domestic, Commercial, Install, Maintenance or all of them?

Are you employed currently in the gas /plumbing field?

Your prospective / current employer may provide some tools depending on where you work.

 

[Abgash]

No I don't have any experience at all, my current job is unstable and I am unskilled so I am starting the course in April. I was looking for tools while I have a half decent income to buy them . The plan is to find work but have a back up plan with tools and van incase it takes time to find work .

 

[Rich8]

How long is your course out of interest?

 

[Riley]

If you have absolutely zero plumbing experience i would strongly recommend speaking to your local college first

 

[Abgash]

I will only be qualified for domestic afterwards. There's 4 weeks basic plumbing involved and that's the only plumbing I would know.

 

[Abgash]

28 weeks. I wish I knew how to post the link for it

 

[Riley]

I am not being negative mate but rather concerned for you and your money. It's not a job that you can pick up and do with no experience. I would strongly advise against

 

[Riley]

28 weeks solid or distance learning?

 

[Abgash]

Riley, if I pm you the course name could you have a look and see what you think?

 

[Rich8]

It takes years to be half decent at this trade that's after an a 4 year apprenticeship also you need to work along side someone who knows what there doing you can't just throw a few grand to a trading centre and walk out a gas engineer most times it's a con to get your money .but good luck to you just be careful

 

[rpm]

Riley, if I pm you the course name could you have a look and see what you think?

Put the name in the search box (Top right corner) it might have been covered before.

 

[Scott_D]

You can have my van and it's contents for £20k

What type of work do you think you will do?

 

[jtsplumbing]

You can have my van and it's contents for

More to the point how much does he expect to earn to cover his outlay ? Why do people think that they can do a few weeks in a class room and walk out a fully experienced gas engineer, does he know what he needs to do just to join gas safe ? I've been in this job since the early 70s and still learning, Your 20K seems a fair price, maybe he will take up your offer !

 

[Abgash]

It's not a few weeks it's 7 months. Same duration as my local college the only thing about college is I'd need a mentor.

 

[Riley]

7 months full time though or distance learning?

 

[Abgash]

I don't need a van I already have one, it's tools I asked about.

 

[Abgash]

Full time

 

[Riley]

The college will teach you the basics which the other course wont

 

[Abgash]

If I could attend the college I would, course seems only option . Qualifications are end are the same though

 

[Riley]

That's assuming a. You pass, and b. That they don't mess you around to get through the foundation modules. What is your hope at the end of the course?

 

[Abgash]

I would have the qualifications for domestic work but I think my stumbling g block would be experience , the least amount of experience I've came across for a job is a year. That's why I want tools for at least a bit of back up to try and get some work till I get full time somewhere.

 

[Riley]

A year is still pushing it mate. Plus most companies want plumbing experience which you won't have. Doing ACS will not teach you about central heating set ups or design. You will not learn pipe skills or working with different materials such as black iron. You won't learn the chemical associations of metals and how they can and can't go together. Once again I'm not being negative but you'd be better off getting plumbing skills and then maybe doing gas once you've built experience

 

[Abgash]

Central heating set ups and design is involved as is pipework, association of metals I couldn't tell you as that's obviously alien to me but I will check that out. Thanks for that

 

[Riley]

You're obviously not going to be swayed. We've given our honest opinions.

 

[Abgash]

I have been looking at this for over a year now, I'm not just jumping in. Thanks again though for your knowledge.

 

[Scott_D]

Out of interest - why choose gas
Potential earnings?
Easy to get into?
Something else?

 

[Riley]

I can pretty much guarantee you won't get a job at the end of it unless you have an in. Companies are very hesitant of fast track courses

 

[Abgash]

It just seems like a job I'd enjoy doing and I need to get out the job I'm in. If I earn the same salary as I'm on in my current job I'd still be happy. I just want skills and thought this one was best.

 

[Riley]

Would you be comfortable giving us an x-y bracket for pay and we could say if this is likely/achievable in the first couple of years

 

[Riley]

I maintain you would appreciate it more if you did plumbing first. You will make more sense of the gas

 

[ShaunCorbs]

It just seems like a job I'd enjoy doing and I need to get out the job I'm in. If I earn the same salary as I'm on in my current job I'd still be happy. I just want skills and thought this one was best.

what you earning now?

 

[Abgash]

£24k

 

[Riley]

You'll struggle to get that in the first few years

 

[jtsplumbing]

It just seems like a job I'd enjoy doing and I need to get out the job I'm in. If I earn the same salary as I'm on in my current job I'd still be happy. I just want skills and thought this one was best.

Are you a hands on type of person ? have you been involved with heavy & dirty work ? do you have any knowledge of the building industry ? Please don't spend lot of money doing this course if your impression of this type of work is watching someone repair your boiler and you think that this is an easy way to make a living! believe me its not ! it takes years of experience not months, people are under the impression that this job is easy money, but remember get it wrong and people can die ! 24K to start please get your head out of the clouds, You say you have a van and from what you are saying , you intend to start doing some gas work at the same time as you are doing your training ! do you understand that you will be braking the law if you do this ? Asking about tools ! you cant do this job with a screwdriver and a couple of spanners, wait until you have started the course then you will have a better idea of what is required, think in the area of 5K for tools when starting out.

 

[Abgash]

I'm not doing work while training I'm trying to build up tools for the end of my training while I have cash. Yes I am used to hard, dirty AND heavy work that's all I've done I never once said it was easy. If I thought it was a few spanners and screwdrivers I wouldn't be asking about tools!

 

[jtsplumbing]

Just wait until you start, ask the person doing the training what he uses, don't be tempted to buy cheep tools, if you intend to do boiler work then you will need a good analyser , a multi meter just for starters that takes care of 1K , but you find it a struggle doing this job without having knowledge of plumbing systems and controls, most guys on here started has plumbers then over the years progressed in it doing gas work, when I started doing gas was part of the plumbers job, but over the years gas has become more specialized that is why you cant learn to do this job in a few months, will you be earning anything whilst training is it a hands on course or a home study one ??

 

[jtsplumbing]

What are you hoping to do after you have done the course ?

 

[leelister6]

Full set of screwdrivers
3-4 different sizes of adjustable spanners
spanners
pipeslices
stilsons
pliers
water pump pliers
pliers
mole grips
hacksaw (junior & biggun)
allen keys (metric & imperial)
olive splitter
mastic gun
files
immersion spanners
hammers
wood chisels
cold chisels
basin wrenchs
box spanners
stanley knife
adjustable pipe cutters
selection of wood saws
spade bits
holesaw set
socket sets
core drill set
cordless drill driver
impact wrench
jigsaw
circular saw
sds hammer drill
multitool
pipe bender
bending springs
angle grinder
tape measures
bleed keys
rad tail wrench
blowtorch
heat mat
crowbars
ladders
steps
hop-ups
hose pipes
buckets
dust sheets
carpet protector
towels
gloves
dustmasks
goggles
workwear
tool boxes
storage boxes
vacuum cleaner (wet & dry)
extension leads
van vault
FGA
multimeter

copper fittings and pipe
waste fittings and pipe
solder
flux
screws
silicone
washer kits
o ring kits

public liability insurance (at least £2 million)
tool insurance
van insurance

That should get you started

 

[AlexGas]

Full set of screwdrivers
3-4 different sizes of adjustable spanners
spanners
pipeslices
stilsons
pliers
water pump pliers
pliers
mole grips
hacksaw (junior & biggun)
allen keys (metric & imperial)
olive splitter
mastic gun
files
immersion spanners
hammers
wood chisels
cold chisels
basin wrenchs
box spanners
stanley knife
adjustable pipe cutters
selection of wood saws
spade bits
holesaw set
socket sets
core drill set
cordless drill driver
impact wrench
jigsaw
circular saw
sds hammer drill
multitool
pipe bender
bending springs
angle grinder
tape measures
bleed keys
rad tail wrench
blowtorch
heat mat
crowbars
ladders
steps
hop-ups
hose pipes
buckets
dust sheets
carpet protector
towels
gloves
dustmasks
goggles
workwear
tool boxes
storage boxes
vacuum cleaner (wet & dry)
extension leads
van vault
FGA
multimeter

copper fittings and pipe
waste fittings and pipe
solder
flux
screws
silicone
washer kits
o ring kits

public liability insurance (at least £2 million)
tool insurance
van insurance

That should get you started

Pencils :builder:

 

[rpm]

Knee pads

 

[leelister6]

Pencils :builder:

assorted levels
sharpie markers
electrical tape
ptfe
rawlplugs
assorted pipe clips
notebooks
drywall saw
spare blades for knives, saws etc
cup
spoon
paper towel roll
kneepads
radio (DAB)
spare batteries
wet wipes

 

[Riley]

Knee pads

God yes

 

[Stoney Ground]

Full set of screwdrivers
3-4 different sizes of adjustable spanners
spanners
pipeslices
stilsons
pliers
water pump pliers
pliers
mole grips
hacksaw (junior & biggun)
allen keys (metric & imperial)
olive splitter
mastic gun
files
immersion spanners
hammers
wood chisels
cold chisels
basin wrenchs
box spanners
stanley knife
adjustable pipe cutters
selection of wood saws
spade bits
holesaw set
socket sets
core drill set
cordless drill driver
impact wrench
jigsaw
circular saw
sds hammer drill
multitool
pipe bender
bending springs
angle grinder
tape measures
bleed keys
rad tail wrench
blowtorch
heat mat
crowbars
ladders
steps
hop-ups
hose pipes
buckets
dust sheets
carpet protector
towels
gloves
dustmasks
goggles
workwear
tool boxes
storage boxes
vacuum cleaner (wet & dry)
extension leads
van vault
FGA
multimeter

copper fittings and pipe
waste fittings and pipe
solder
flux
screws
silicone
washer kits
o ring kits

public liability insurance (at least £2 million)
tool insurance
van insurance

That should get you started

I find if you can use the :hammer: properly, you don't need the rest.

 

[Abgash]

I understand what your saying regarding the plumbing side of things but I'm just not in a position for training beforehand. I am lucky enough to have a weekend job though in place to support me while I learn.

 

[Abgash]

???

 

[Abgash]

I find if you can use the :hammer: properly, you don't need the rest.

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[leelister6]

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Hammer

 

[jtsplumbing]

I understand what your saying regarding the plumbing side of things but I'm just not in a position for training beforehand. I am lucky enough to have a weekend job though in place to support me while I learn.

Without any knowledge of how systems work you are going to struggle doing this job ! what do you intend doing when you have finished this course ? and doing this course still wont let you work on gas, you will still need to do the ACS courses then get accepted on the Gas Safe register.