plumbing apprentice

[fuzzy]

ok, just had a look at this on the C&G website, its completly new and probably why not many colleges are yet offering it. TBH it looks like a great qual, my concern is colleges making it viable, are they likely to get a full class each year to run with this? it will probably only run in the major citys which have a large cathment area. it is run just like an HNC its all coursework and is made up of 2 core units with a futher 10 for each pathway, one elec and one mechanical so people from plumb/H&V/refridge etc.
Let me know if you do it, theres no practical at all, all theory based

 

[REDSAW]

there is also an nvq level 5 too, i have the bumf somewhere laying around.
its like a degree level for management designs or summat.

 

[johns]

Hey

I have just started a plumbing course that will give me the following qualifications, City and Guilds 6128 Level 2Technical Certificate in Heating and Ventilation, OCN 116786 Accredited Domestic plumbing programme. are these qualifications seen as good ones to have for someone who is just starting out in the trade?

 

[WaterTight]

you guys need to catch up i'm a level 5 plumber.

 

[fuzzy]

6128 is not plumbing but heating and vent, a different trade, many have posted the same lately, think there must be some misleadind suppliers of quals if you think thats plumbing

 

[Dotty]

you guys need to catch up i'm a level 5 plumber.

I'm still in the basement.........

Likes it dark, me!

 

[WaterTight]

Wow. Avatars. Good idea?

 

[PlumbBobBob]

i'm not so sure lol

steve

 

[Dotty]

i'm not so sure lol

steve

I know.

Sadly I really do look like that!

 

[dontknowitall]

I feel right dainty ...

 

[moony]

6128 is not plumbing but heating and vent, a different trade, many have posted the same lately, think there must be some misleadind suppliers of quals if you think thats plumbing

only difference is theres no lead work - i done my 6088 in heating and vent - and the course ran from the heimenens level 2 and 3 plumbing books - the only chapter not covered was lead work fuzzy....

i think weve had this conversation before, but there is hardly any difference in the courses the tutor told us this - it just concentrates on the heating sector more which i think would benefit a lot of plumbers as there are only so many bathrooms soil stacks you can do. On our level three we covered fault finding on boilers central heating systems full house heating measurements - multi meter work - gas sizing - all domestic as you have a choice at begininng of course if your following commercial or domestic. Anyways i have found its helped me a lot more without knocking **** out of a piece of lead for a few months which most roofers do nowadays anyway

 

[fuzzy]

only difference is theres no lead work - i done my 6088 in heating and vent - and the course ran from the heimenens level 2 and 3 plumbing books - the only chapter not covered was lead work fuzzy....

i think weve had this conversation before, but there is hardly any difference in the courses the tutor told us this - it just concentrates on the heating sector more which i think would benefit a lot of plumbers as there are only so many bathrooms soil stacks you can do. On our level three we covered fault finding on boilers central heating systems full house heating measurements - multi meter work - gas sizing - all domestic as you have a choice at begininng of course if your following commercial or domestic. Anyways i have found its helped me a lot more without knocking **** out of a piece of lead for a few months which most roofers do nowadays anyway

the tutor lied mate, it is not plumbing, never mind lead, did you cover sanitation? bathrroms etc etc. ? it aint in the course mate. i know ive done both

 

[moony]

yes mate - 4 of my jobs were bathrooms with radiators involved, 7 of them were full heating - 2 were soil stacks. that was for level 2 - level 3 was more aimed to heating only.

on the first 2 years - there were lads who only done bathrooms - they couldnt come back for 3rd year because they were not with anyone who was gas safe.

i think its an excellent course these days as it concentrates on heating more (where the money is now imo) you are then classed as a domestic heating fitter/engineer with cscs card....

I served my time with a gas safe engineer, he also specialised in kitchens and bathrooms even building work so i gained all angles of knowledge - i learnt more about the heating systems from my course though and was thankful for this when it come to starting my own plumbing and heating business as i had a lot more knowledge about fault finding and heating layouts.

each to there own mate - if youve done the course (which iirc you done it a long time ago when you were a pipefitter there was probably no option to go along the domestic route then ) and you dont think you have gained any plumbing knowledge from it then fair play - but i gained a lot from it and it helped produce my portfolio for the gassafe reg, and the college even funded the ccn1 we had to pay for the extra appliances....part of the welsh assembly funding.

 

[fuzzy]

i did the H&V 20 years ago and the plumbing NVQs about 5 /6 years ago just to recognise my other skills as there was no domestic plumbing at all in the H&V 20 years ago. surprised there is now?

 

[fuzzy]

just thought, did you do the domestic H&V? there are 2 options commercial or domestic