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Hey folks,

I'm starting to get to the point where I'm seriously considering getting out of the plumbing/gas game and trying to find something else to do.

I broke my wrist last week, so I'm at home with probably too much time on my hands. But, to be honest Ive been feeling this way for the last 6 months or so.

I've been Gas reg for 3 years now and plumbing for 4 ish. I kinda did things the wrong way around as I trained with a friend who was gas reg before learning all the basics in plumbing. It's been one big learning curve for sure and for the most part I've enjoyed it.

The last year or so has been difficult with the economic down turn. Never really knowing what I'm doing from one day to the next. But I've survived and kept the ship afloat.

But I've become more and more despondent with the market/customers. People want things doing for nowt it seems. I live in a town where I'm quoting for a decent mid range boiler, and yet the houses seem full of chaffoteaux specials that look like they have been thrown on the wall. So I rarely get the job.

Most of my work is word of mouth. I seem to have a core group of customers who trust me and like my work. I also worsk for a couple of letting agents doing there breakdowns. This is fine, but does not keep me busy enough and finding new work and getting it is difficult.


I went out to a boiler breakdown the other night and on route called in to a job that wanted a new siphon fitting (they had the siphon and it only needed twisting in as it was a direct replacement for a faulty one). It only took me 5 mins, but it was 7pm on a tues night. As I was on route I said just give me £30 quid for the call -out. The reply I got was amazing: "you should try being a supply teacher" Long story short she was a supply teacher and thought I was expensive.


I can give loads and loads of other examples but I won't bore you.


It seems the recession has brought the worst out in some people coupled with some engineers carrying out work for what seems like the minimum wage has made it difficult to operate a genuine and qulality orientated business.


Rant over, I'm off to torch my van and feed my G1 book to the dog :D
 
Hey folks,

I'm starting to get to the point where I'm seriously considering getting out of the plumbing/gas game and trying to find something else to do.

I broke my wrist last week, so I'm at home with probably too much time on my hands. But, to be honest Ive been feeling this way for the last 6 months or so.

I've been Gas reg for 3 years now and plumbing for 4 ish. I kinda did things the wrong way around as I trained with a friend who was gas reg before learning all the basics in plumbing. It's been one big learning curve for sure and for the most part I've enjoyed it.

The last year or so has been difficult with the economic down turn. Never really knowing what I'm doing from one day to the next. But I've survived and kept the ship afloat.

But I've become more and more despondent with the market/customers. People want things doing for nowt it seems. I live in a town where I'm quoting for a decent mid range boiler, and yet the houses seem full of chaffoteaux specials that look like they have been thrown on the wall. So I rarely get the job.

Most of my work is word of mouth. I seem to have a core group of customers who trust me and like my work. I also worsk for a couple of letting agents doing there breakdowns. This is fine, but does not keep me busy enough and finding new work and getting it is difficult.


I went out to a boiler breakdown the other night and on route called in to a job that wanted a new siphon fitting (they had the siphon and it only needed twisting in as it was a direct replacement for a faulty one). It only took me 5 mins, but it was 7pm on a tues night. As I was on route I said just give me £30 quid for the call -out. The reply I got was amazing: "you should try being a supply teacher" Long story short she was a supply teacher and thought I was expensive.


I can give loads and loads of other examples but I won't bore you.


It seems the recession has brought the worst out in some people coupled with some engineers carrying out work for what seems like the minimum wage has made it difficult to operate a genuine and qulality orientated business.


Rant over, I'm off to torch my van and feed my G1 book to the dog :D
Totaly agree with everything that youve just said, just take comfort in the fact that you are not alone, even people who say they are doing ok are struggling.
 
turned upto to look at a dripping shower yesturday, turned it on/off a few times and obviously reset the seal ok as no more leak. No charge to custard who was an old girl id worked for before. Picked up 3 jobs today from her mates upon her recommendation overnight, proves u dont always have to hang on /make work etc to get paid in the long term. As ever service and manners is what most customers look for and word of mouth will get you employment in the long term. Smug self satisfied old git, thats me!


You seem to have the 'old' market all sewn up old git
 
if you do that for just say 3 years you will have a very good cleint base. Then you can start charging for work, jobs a good un


Trouble is after three years they will all probably be dead,so you are back to square one

mind you you may get some system drain downs,while the house is empty, off the estate :(

I get fed up of working for old people ,being called to leaks through ceiling and finding out its caused by incontinence

imho
 
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Trouble is after three years they will all probably be dead,so you are back to square one

mind you you may get some system drain downs,while the house is empty, off the estate :(

I get fed up of working for old people ,being called to leaks through ceiling and finding out its caused by incontinence

imho

ah the old age......headwork!!!!!
 
in our game you never know whats round the corner,been self employed 15 yrs,it is hard at moment,but it will pick up,you,ve got to have rainy day/week/month fund.hard not doing work,you get fed up/tired more.
 
I set up my business in 2007 for exactly the same reasons. Not to make the fortunes that were bantered around in the papers but because I was working as a plumber on big building sites and had had enough. I then thought that if I retrained as a then Corgi gas engineer I'd be me own boss and make an ok living with the reward of doing a good job and helping people.

Things haven't turned out that way at all.
Now in more debt than I ever have been.

I also had a customer complain at the price to change a syphon on a toilet. This was a Grohe syphon in a designer flat all marble bathroom!! the syphon was a special order. To cut a long story short I made £60 on the job and was there twice!! Once to remove, once to fit.
If you go on E bay there are guys offering £299 on the labour to fit a Vaillant boiler!!!:eek:

Clients don't seem to get that with reliability and care comes a price and not a mental price.

Hope it picks up for us all soon.
Till then just have to battle though
 
Yeah I love the Ebay ads, £299 labour and most will travel anywhere for the work. What about back up service though? long way to travel back for any issues and will eat into there £299.

Each to there own I guess.
 
in our game you never know whats round the corner,been self employed 15 yrs,it is hard at moment,but it will pick up,you,ve got to have rainy day/week/month fund.hard not doing work,you get fed up/tired more.
quietest month i have known,and yes people do shop around to get the cheapest quote,this does not mean they will be happy with the end result,for instance the amount of people who phone and ask; how much to install a cooker?i say £70.00 if a straight forward install,they say;i have already been quoted £35:confused:do they expect me to pay them:confused:i know the trade is flooded with cowboys and this is impacting on the work situation,maybe we should contemplate on a trade only supply of gas/plumbing parts/spares to help combat this.whats the trades thoughts on this?:cool:
 
It's times like this I wish I had an ASBO, 8 kids and a drink habit. At least the rent would be paid and I'd be on benefits up to my eyeballs :)
 
It's times like this I wish I had an ASBO, 8 kids and a drink habit. At least the rent would be paid and I'd be on benefits up to my eyeballs :)
make the most of the time you have,tie up any loose ends sort out the office and the van,stock take and replenish then sit in the garden and chill:cool:
 
make the most of the time you have,tie up any loose ends sort out the office and the van,stock take and replenish then sit in the garden and chill:cool:

That is the best advice. The sun is out and that is where I'm going.
All accounts are upto date, van is checked.
Might have a megaflow install for friday.:D

Catch you all later.

All the best
:)
 
Getting the veg patch dug out, potatoes planted, seeds sown and catching up with accounts. There's all thos small irritating little jobs I've been putting off I can catch up with such as tightening loose taps behind built-in Belfast sinks etc.

Just landed two complete boiler / heating systems but not unitl the customers turn off the heating for the summer so hope it gets warm quickly!


Cant do much mate with a broken wrist
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You can use the other wrist !:D:p
 
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