WC Pan, Idea Standard

[Derrick229]

I have returned from Egypt and I just wondered if anyone else had come across the the washdown facilty they have there (its basicly a bum wash) similar to a bidet, but this isnt a spray

Its a fitting that fits at the back of the pan and sends a jet of water, at the back is a valve which turns the water on and off

The pan it was fitted to was an ideal standard, I have tried to contact them about it, but they have no idea what the heck it is, its on a close coupled suite

I dont know if its an 'add on' or if its just availible out there (I tried to find a plumbers merchants, no chance, I dont think they have them out there)

I have seen the hose type that is used in Asia, Thailand, India, Sri Lanka, but thats not really what I'm after (I think the kids would sod about with it)

Has anyone else seen them or have any idea what I'm on about ?

I took a photo, but cant post it

If anyone has any idea what I'm talking about, WHERE can I get one and the fittings ?

 

[tamz]

I have seen the type you are on about but i'm sure they would contravine the water regulations so wouldn't be able to be fitted here.

 

[Derrick229]

I have seen the type you are on about but i'm sure they would contravine the water regulations so wouldn't be able to be fitted here.

I cant see that, especially if fitted with a back check valve (and how many houses actually have one fitted ? )

 

[Plumbstar Tom]

really need a picture to be honest

Can you not post it on website like Flickr?

Do you mean a bidet with a Douche?

 

[Derrick229]

really need a picture to be honest

Can you not post it on website like Flickr?

Do you mean a bidet with a Douche?

I'll try and describe it

From the feed to the cistern, a flexible pipe is tee'd in, which leads to a on/off valve, this in turn goes to another flexible pipe, which goes to the back of the pan (I assume a hole has been cut into the pan)
It looks like a dic, with a hole in the center for the water to come out, as a jet

If I can post a picture, somewhere I will

 

[Plumbstar Tom]

Please, I still need a picture

 

[tamz]

I cant see that, especially if fitted with a back check valve (and how many houses actually have one fitted ? )

Double check valves would be nowhere near enough protection. It is potentially worse risk than an ascending spray bidet. Check out what needs to be done to fit one of those.

 

[tamz]

Please, I still need a picture

Think of a pan with a water outlet 3" below the rim. This is connected to a valve behind the pan which can be reached while sitting on it.

Doubt very much if they would be allowed for obvious reasons..

 

[Derrick229]

Double check valves would be nowhere near enough protection. It is potentially worse risk than an ascending spray bidet. Check out what needs to be done to fit one of those.

If a back check is fitted, and the water is supplied from a tank above, 7 feet, I cant see any problem, never known water to go uphill (and if the jet is above any water line)

But finding one of them is difficult

 

[Plumbstar Tom]

with this sort of thing in it

Kohler K-16137-4A-BN Vibrant Brushed Nickel Revival Bidet Faucet With Below-The-Rim Swivel Spray And Traditional Lever Handles | Overstock.com

 

[Plumbstar Tom]

or this where the bidet has a vertical jet

http://www.salvomie.com/images/userimgs/39233/50111_1.jpg

 

[Derrick229]

with this sort of thing in it

Kohler K-16137-4A-BN Vibrant Brushed Nickel Revival Bidet Faucet With Below-The-Rim Swivel Spray And Traditional Lever Handles | Overstock.com

Nope, the one I saw look like a retro fit, its an ordinary pan, Ideal standard

 

[Derrick229]

or this where the bidet has a vertical jet

http://www.salvomie.com/images/userimgs/39233/50111_1.jpg

If you can imagine the jet placed about 2-3 inches below the rim of the pan, with the valve fitted on the right as you sit on it, then you will have an idea

 

[Derrick229]

I have found the pictures now, I dont know if they will show up in here, but I'll give it a try

Here goes