Passable work or bodge job!?

[ShaunCorbs]

Proper plumbers use copper for inaccessible pipes. They also don't use 'solder ring' fittings.

Disagree most of the old timers use it and is spec on some commercial jobs

 

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Disagree most of the old timers use it and is spec on some commercial jobs

Thanks for calling me an old timer.
You are right about solder ring fittings being the norm in the past. Not sure why that was, but rarely see end feed on work done 50 years ago and I was taught to use Yorkshire fittings.
End feed was thought of by many as inferior then.
I suppose you could think of Yorkshire fittings as the faster method of soldering

 

[dan_the_plumber]

Maybe solder ring was the norm in the past and they do have their uses. But these days they tend to be used more by DIYers.

 

[Harvest Fields]

Surely that’s because of price and it is much cheaper for pros to use end feed?

 

[dan_the_plumber]

Surely that’s because of price and it is much cheaper for pros to use end feed?

Maybe. It's just the norm ain't it

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Thanks for calling me an old timer.
You are right about solder ring fittings being the norm in the past. Not sure why that was, but rarely see end feed on work done 50 years ago and I was taught to use Yorkshire fittings.
End feed was thought of by many as inferior then.
I suppose you could think of Yorkshire fittings as the faster method of soldering

end feed wasnt around back then as much well that’s what I was told

 

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end feed wasnt around back then as much well that’s what I was told

Yes, I think that is right.
There was the heavy brass end feed fittings about. I do know homes built end of war - 1946, had end feed copper work.
I didn’t do it though!!

 

[Harvest Fields]

Yes, I think that is right.
There was the heavy brass end feed fittings about. I do know homes built end of war - 1946, had end feed copper work.
I didn’t do it though!!

That old chestnut

 

[Rob Foster]

That's strange because the same website recommends burying copper in lime chippings to act as a preservative.

There must be some reaction when the lime is mixed that makes it corrosive because natural lime isn't corrosive to copper at all, in fact copper artefacts have been found perfectly preserved in lime and they have been buried for hundreds of years.

I fully agree that copper should always be sleaved with felt at a minimum, but I've always done it on the basis it gives the copper an expansion gap and prolongs the life of the copper by reducing abrasion.

I always understood that copper pipe must be sleeved in concrete because it then is allowed to expand and contract and not try to pull itself apart which was just painting it with gloss paint was a none starter
Rob Foster aka centralheatking

 

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That old chestnut

Only reason I mentioned 1946 is it is the oldest date genuinely I know for certain that end feed soldered copper joints were used in houses I worked on.
Just something that puts a time line for me that copper and end feed was used.
I am a bit boring like that.