[repost] Possible to put a toilet on the other side of the house to the soil pipe?

[rpm]

Re: [repost] Possible to put a toilet on the other side of the house to the soil pipe

How come you suggest it as a last resort then?

Better than a bucket?

 

[Boggart]

Re: [repost] Possible to put a toilet on the other side of the house to the soil pipe

You need to know the depth of your joist and also if there is a fairly clear run available - not full of pipes and masses of wires for example. The odd wire or copper pipe might possibly be rerouted no problem.
If not too long a distance it is sometimes possible to use a male to female 4" bend with the male (pipe) end for through the floor slightly. This can give you option of a reasonable slight fall for the 4" pipe.
Ideally you need to have 8 or 7" depth available. The 4" fittings can be about actual diameter of 5" if that gives you any idea.

I can't really pull up a floorboard right now, as a relative is staying over in the in-between room. I guess once I can I should be able to just shine a torch and look all the way along? I'm struggling to imagine how it'd be possible to get much of a slope in that small space though? It's quite a long distance it has to travel, so even if there's an 8" space, it's not going to be very steeply sloped is it? =/ Won't waste just sit in it halfway along?

 

[mutley racers]

Re: [repost] Possible to put a toilet on the other side of the house to the soil pipe

Needs around 18mm per metre

 

[Best]

Re: [repost] Possible to put a toilet on the other side of the house to the soil pipe

I can't really pull up a floorboard right now, as a relative is staying over in the in-between room. I guess once I can I should be able to just shine a torch and look all the way along? I'm struggling to imagine how it'd be possible to get much of a slope in that small space though? It's quite a long distance it has to travel, so even if there's an 8" space, it's not going to be very steeply sloped is it? =/ Won't waste just sit in it halfway along?

How far is it to run approx?
It needs a constant fall, but very slight. It is actually a bad thing to have too much fall on a horizontal run of sewer pipe as the water will not push the solids away as good.
If the soil pipe is supported every metre or so and with very slight fall, it will work fine.
The level showing just "off the bubble" on a couple metre length will be okay, although strictly speaking not to recommended fall.

 

[JCplumb]

Re: [repost] Possible to put a toilet on the other side of the house to the soil pipe

The loo had been moved from the back wall to a couple of metres past the middle of the house before I bought my current house. Joists run the wrong way too.
The soil runs above the floor(hidden in a vanity unit, then a small bit of boxing) under the back of the bath, then into a 90 (91.5) about a foot of soil going down through floor then into another 90, through a supporting wall and then along the old kitchen ceiling and out through the wall. The kitchen ceiling was then lowered by about a foot to hide it.
I wouldn't personally be over the moon with the two elbows only a foot apart, sounds like a hot spot for blockages, but I've owned the house for nearly 15 years, even had it rented out for about 5 of those years and never a problem.

 

[Boggart]

Re: [repost] Possible to put a toilet on the other side of the house to the soil pipe

Needs around 18mm per metre

Oh is that all? I imagined it'd have to be much steeper. O.O

 

[Boggart]

Re: [repost] Possible to put a toilet on the other side of the house to the soil pipe

How far is it to run approx?
It needs a constant fall, but very slight. It is actually a bad thing to have too much fall on a horizontal run of sewer pipe as the water will not push the solids away as good.
If the soil pipe is supported every metre or so and with very slight fall, it will work fine.
The level showing just "off the bubble" on a couple metre length will be okay, although strictly speaking not to recommended fall.

Very roughly guessing it's about 10 feet (basically the length of the room between the back wall and the room I want to put the toilet in, since I want it on, or very close to the dividing wall between the 2 rooms anyway).

 

[Boggart]

Re: [repost] Possible to put a toilet on the other side of the house to the soil pipe

The loo had been moved from the back wall to a couple of metres past the middle of the house before I bought my current house. Joists run the wrong way too.
The soil runs above the floor(hidden in a vanity unit, then a small bit of boxing) under the back of the bath, then into a 90 (91.5) about a foot of soil going down through floor then into another 90, through a supporting wall and then along the old kitchen ceiling and out through the wall. The kitchen ceiling was then lowered by about a foot to hide it.
I wouldn't personally be over the moon with the two elbows only a foot apart, sounds like a hot spot for blockages, but I've owned the house for nearly 15 years, even had it rented out for about 5 of those years and never a problem.

That's really interesting. I had wondered what they would do if the joists had been the other way around, or if it simply needed more vertical space than was under the floor to have enough of a slope on it.

 

[Best]

Re: [repost] Possible to put a toilet on the other side of the house to the soil pipe

Very roughly guessing it's about 10 feet (basically the length of the room between the back wall and the room I want to put the toilet in, since I want it on, or very close to the dividing wall between the 2 rooms anyway).

That's a very short distance really and you should have no bother getting a slight fall if joists are 7" or more.

 

[Radioman]

Re: [repost] Possible to put a toilet on the other side of the house to the soil pipe

Suggest you take a look at this web site before commencing any work
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploa...604_Building_Work_Leaflet_amended_version.pdf