Gas checks after repair?

[Wilco]

After work has been carried out on a gas leak ( new copper section inserted to line under concrete floor ) by a qualified gas engineer, when looking at paper work what safety checks should have been carried out?

 

[AWheating]

normally a purge and relight with a visual risk assessment unless the pipework route was altered greatly, No paperwork required unless requested.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

normally a purge and relight with a visual risk assessment unless the pipework route was altered greatly, No paperwork required unless requested.

+1, plus a tightness test

 

[Riley]

I don't think there is an actual obligation to do but a tightness test would be a no brainer followed by a purge and test of all appliances

 

[Riley]

Damn slow typer

 

[AWheating]

i assumed a tightness test was a given LOL

i should never assume

 

[Riley]

i assumed a tightness test was a given LOL

i should never assume

Never ceases to amaze me those that don't bother

 

[firemant]

I don't think there is an actual obligation to do but a tightness test would be a no brainer followed by a purge and test of all appliances

TT not req. Are you serious?

 

[firemant]

OP: What, specifically, are you worried about?

 

[Riley]

Don't get me wrong I do every time without fail but I was taught that it's not a must have

 

[firemant]

Don't get me wrong I do every time without fail but I was taught that it's not a must have

When/where were you taught that?
You don't HAVE to TT a LL inspection or, eg , a service. If you turn off the gas at the meter, then a TT is required.

 

[Riley]

Take your word for it mate, it's irrelevant as I always do it. But as said I find it staggering the amount that don't in any situation

 

[firemant]

Take your word for it mate, it's irrelevant as I always do it. But as said I find it staggering the amount that don't in any situation

You may think it is irrelevant, but I find it staggering that you have apparently been mis taught a fundamental. No offence intended.

 

[Riley]

These things happen mate. To be honest the fella I learned with knew his stuff but was very bad at explaining himself. One of those that was better to watch than listen to. As I said he taught me to always test so never any fear of a missed leak. Can't really understand why someone wouldn't

 

[lame plumber]

some folks need to have a read of the gas regs!!

 

[jonnyswamp]

If you've just repaired a gas leak, TT is the first thing you'd do
Then the usual visual of all exposed pipe work, bonding, labels etc
Personally, I leave a gas safety cert explaining exactly what I'd done and why I,d done it

 

[LaMont5way]

By law you would be required to test the insulation after working on the gas supply, you would also be required to visually inspect(5 point check) any appliance connected to the supply of gas. Would be common sense to also test(tt) before work. Paperwork is a grey area,we are not required to issue minor works certs like electricians but this could be up for debate.

 

[Gary Lee]

I'm doing the Gas part of my level 3 at the moment and its been drummed into us literally that after every bit of work you do a tightness test. But what do i know, i still a puppy lol

 

[firemant]

I'm doing the Gas part of my level 3 at the moment and its been drummed into us literally that after every bit of work you do a tightness test. But what do i know, i still a puppy lol

That may be the common sense approach, but it isn't accurate. You should be being taught the rules and regs. Otherwise we end up with pointless debates like this. Or you may end up critisising amother guy without realising you are wrong. if you see what I mean

 

[LaMont5way]

By law you would be required to test the insulation after working on the gas supply, you would also be required to visually inspect(5 point check) any appliance connected to the supply of gas. Would be common sense to also test(tt) before work. Paperwork is a grey area,we are not required to issue minor works certs like electricians but this could be up for debate.

Installation and 6 point! It appears we all have our own interpretations of gsuir 1998, gae 1954, Ige/up/1(I.e,1, 1a 1b,1c)

 

[AWheating]

leak detection and fek off.

32.1.34.2

 

[goz666]

I'm doing the Gas part of my level 3 at the moment and its been drummed into us literally that after every bit of work you do a tightness test. But what do i know, i still a puppy lol

I was always taught TT first thing before touching anything else or doing any work.

 

[lame plumber]

I was always taught TT first thing before touching anything else or doing any work.

thats a common sense approach to minimising your grief down the line,

 

[goz666]

thats a common sense approach to minimising your grief down the line,

Which is why we were all taught that way mate, I've broke my own rule before and then found a drop on the TT, heads in tatters then wondering if it was already there ?? Teaching my apprentice now, soon as we get to a job...he has the U gauge out.

 

[AlexGas]

The kettle on goes first.

 

[lame plumber]

Which is why we were all taught that way mate, I've broke my own rule before and then found a drop on the TT, heads in tatters then wondering if it was already there ?? Teaching my apprentice now, soon as we get to a job...he has the U gauge out.

colleges dont seem to teach this as it isnt required in the regs, hence my comment on the common sense approach

 

[Captain.rick]

Tightness test before I do anything and tightness test when I'm done, if I'm in a good mood I even LDF

 

[kirkgas]

Understanding the mandatory requirements is a starting point, unfortunately too many people use their opinion rather than the regs,
It is a mandatory requirement to know your gas work is gas tight, so if you are altering a gas pipe on existing carcass and existing appliances, if you only test after and find a 1mb drop how do you know if it was there before you started or caused by you, however there are plenty of situations where a TT isn't mandatory

 

[plumben]

I was told by one of my college tutors that if you turn the ecv off and do work on the gas you have to TT but if you where to isolate and then work from that point on you could just LDF

Although I always TT first and after any work.

 

[LaMont5way]

Some would say if you were to change a gas valve on a domestic boiler, fsd on cooker, that ldf is enough. But, the more cautious interpretation of the regs would require: Tt all aappliances and carcass then 6point check/purge and relight of all appliances.

 

[AWheating]

If your working on an appliance then you need to perform more than a visual risk assessment. Changing a safety device requires a test on said device which sometimes is best done with your gauge on the meter. Ie cooker fsd shuts gas supply, tt at meter to confirm no gas is passing.

 

[Eric withy]

Personally I test work before and after like I've done for god knows how many years it's like riding a bike once learnt never forget

 

[Pssst]

If i am going to a property that has reported a gas escape, before i even touch anything, i whizz over the meter /ecv/service and immediate outlet pipe with a detector. I then TT,repair as necessary then TT again. If i am going to exchange a gas carrying component on an appliance i TT the whole thing first,do job, TT again and survey the appliance i have worked on with a sniffer.

 

[newcastle phill]

Well as a gas escape is ID you need to rectify that before anything in the usual way.
Detect-rectify-test.

If you change a gas fitting then you have interuppted the supply so its test again and relight

 

[AlexGas]

Well as a gas escape is ID you need to rectify that before anything in the usual way.
Detect-rectify-test.

If you change a gas fitting then you have interuppted the supply so its test again and relight

rectify/make safe