Push fit Vs end feed solder.......??

[steve6710]

i have a couple of little jobs..........(moving 2 rads and fitting new outside tap)

a lot of people say push fit is the way to go. i dont mind having a go at soldering and have aquired the tools to do it.
if i paid a half decent plumber to do the jobs what should i expect to see them using?

are there any benefits apart from obvious easier to put on a push fit than solder? which is best by modern standards???

 

[SimonJohns]

End feed has been around for longer than I have been alive and doesn't fail

Plastic looks awful. Quick to install but not anyone's cup of tea

If you pay a plumber and your paying well. Only see copper !

 

[SimonG]

If it's on view it's as SimonJohns says, copper.

 

[PlumbBobBob]

third for copper. plastic imho smacks of amateur really where it is on show.

 

[tamz]

What your plumber decides to use is a personal thing for them. Some very experienced guys will use plastic but others will use copper. It just depends on how they feel. There is nothing wrong with either method but for aesthetics copper is the only way.
All this is irrelevant tho as you are going to do it yourself so do it whatever way you want. It is you who has to look at it.

 

[GQuigley67]

moving 2 rads and fitting outside tap is generally not that much of a small job, will probably take you a full day, a professional half a day. For a professional to supply and fit these your looking at few hundred pound.

 

[GQuigley67]

when you fit an outside tap you should fit a service valve, check valve, and drain cock so you can drain down in winter

 

[Mbear]

when you fit an outside tap you should fit a service valve, check valve, and drain cock so you can drain down in winter

This is a must these days considering the recent winters, excluding this one of course.

I used a heating filling loop to give an isolation and drain off facility in my friends house after their outside tap burst last yr. worked a treat

 

[rocketmanbkk]

Yep, should be a double check valve as per water regs but the tutor has said in reality usually only a single ever fitted.

Good luck.

when you fit an outside tap you should fit a service valve, check valve, and drain cock so you can drain down in winter

 

[Mike Jackson]

Yep, should be a double check valve as per water regs but the tutor has said in reality usually only a single ever fitted.

Good luck.

Some tutor, recommending non compliance with the water regs! I always fit a DC valve to an outside tap.

 

[steve6710]

thanks guys, all makes good sense to me
just to be sure then i could push fit plastic under floor and a short copper piece to rad on show

i suppose copper push fit on show is the cleanest and best astheticly

 

[rocketmanbkk]

I'd go with the regs too, DC for me

 

[steve6710]

thanks guys, all makes good sense to me
just to be sure then i could push fit plastic under floor and a short copper piece to rad on show

i suppose copper push fit on show is the cleanest and best astheticly

 

[dave1]

Copper all day long... Push fit is handy in some situations but as previously said doesn't look good.

 

[PlumbBobBob]

copper pushfit is fine to use although a bit pricey

 

[Best]

Seems wrong to use push fit on an all copper, decent job in a house.
Solder fittings are usually easy to a pro, providing no trouble with water.
If you are using end feed, you will need to be good at soldering.

 

[marleyco]

End feed for me, I do however use a bit of everything as and when I need to. If your not too up for soldering, use solder ring fittings. Most people add solder to them but its not really needed. As I have said before and most might agree, pushfit is genius but they can leak, I've had my share. O rings become hard with heat in time. But I do use them on heating systems that being said. It's a competitive market and although I aim for quality, pushfit below floor etc is quick. I use manifolds meaning there are few fittings to leak, if I can't have one pipe running all the way to a radiator then its copper