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over £200 & i am near newark @~@

if it was 6 months worth it may be worth it but not for 4 days!! and your name on it thats not a business rate its just a wage imo
 
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£35 ph or £200-£225 per day
 
We could not afford to send any skilled man out for £160 per day and I would be furious if Mr TP did work at that rate - we'd be subsidizing the OP.
Having said that £160 per day is roughly what we pay subcontractors, OK the qualified GSR heating engineers do get a bit more - but not much.

I also think if OP is a GSR engineer who has found and organised the job and will be taking responsibility for it, then some guys might be happy to just turn up and do it.
But if he is a builder and he wants a GSR engineer to sort out materials, work out how to do the job, register the boiler etc then obviously £160 is too low.
 
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Could you all stop please. I'm getting tempted to go back contracting again!
 
I charge at least £240 per day, so they way I look at it, if you remove all the work related stress from my life, how can my time as a subby be worth more than £160? That hardest part of the job, isn't the work.

£160 per day still equates to £3200 a month, or just over £2500 after tax. £38,000 a year based on 48 weeks.
 
£160 a day seems a nice amount to me! i work doing maintanance plumbing! only on 22k a year + company van and phone , i think its a good wage for a 21 yr old around where we live ( 3 years a go i was only getting paid £50 a week as an apprenticce , onwards and upwards ..... hopefully!!)
 
TBServices said:
I charge at least £240 per day, so they way I look at it, if you remove all the work related stress from my life, how can my time as a subby be worth more than £160? That hardest part of the job, isn't the work.

£160 per day still equates to £3200 a month, or just over £2500 after tax. £38,000 a year based on 48 weeks.
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But it doesnt account for the fact you dont work every day, have to take holidays and time off sick, need to do quotes and planning etc, time off doing training and gas exams etc which ultimately severely affects your actual takehome in the bank.

My callouts are £75 for first hour then 35 per hour normal working hours (8-4) outside those times the skys the limit within reason and wends are more costly thereafter, quotes for heating systems inc 20% on parts supplied would mean I aim to get around £350 per day net.

just looked a pimlico rates again, ots time to review my rates as i last did them 18,months back, if they can charge £180 for service and LLC my rate needs to go up. http://www.pimlicoplumbers.com/company-charges
 
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im in south hams and plumbs around here are working for £100 a day gas fitters £150 to £200 a day and you would still get undercut at that.
The OP is offering £160 and he would have them queing at the door around here
 
To be fair reading this post and how the thread has gone i dont think anyone would advertise on here again quite embarrassing
 
If your getting over £200 a day down southwest then you are lucky and have a good cust base however it never takes much to get undercut
 
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You can in la la Lame land
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if your good enough you can do anything, got to remember 1/2 of london moves to Woolacombe in the summer in their daft range rover evoques so thet bring their wallets with them, it wouldd be daft not to request the same rates as they pay in the smoke wouldnt it, the nothing lal la about lame, just good business accumen, pity some of you dont try it and learn

re being undercut, of course that happens but 70% of the time if you charge £110 for a range service no parts then youll get the job, the locals who know someone charging £30 will use that guy and quite often I'll be called back by them when he hasnt turned up, or its not working as he hasnt changed the oil filter such that I get the work 6 months later and go on to keep that customer. Just because the national average for wages in devon is low doesnt mean you have to be cheap.
 
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lame plumber said:
if your god enough you can do anything, got to remember 1/2 of london moves to Woolacombe in the summer in their daft range rover evoques so thet bring their wallets with them, it wouldd be daft not to request the same rates as they pay in the smoke wouldnt it, the nothing lal la about lame, just good business accumen, pity some of you dont try it and learn
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I think it is your piety they appreciate :wings:
 
the problem with the part of devon where i live is the sheer amount of plumbs and gas fitters completely flooded where i am so you would struggle to get a higher rate .
I have said before on here that i know guys quite happy to do boiler swaps for about £120 ish and because of this custs feel ripped off at the £200 mark.
I canny be ursed with boiler changes unless its contract as private ones are just hassle gimme a decent commercial install please
 
Just saying as the op's price has been slated they are probably thinking why bother lol
 
lame plumber said:
if your god enough you can do anything, got to remember 1/2 of london moves to Woolacombe in the summer in their daft range rover evoques so thet bring their wallets with them, it wouldd be daft not to request the same rates as they pay in the smoke wouldnt it, the nothing lal la about lame, just good business accumen, pity some of you dont try it and learn

re being undercut, of course that happens but 70% of the time if you charge £110 for a range service no parts then youll get the job, the locals who know someone charging £30 will use that guy and quite often I'll be called back by them when he hasnt turned up, or its not working as he hasnt changed the oil filter such that I get the work 6 months later and go on to keep that customer. Just because the national average for wages in devon is low doesnt mean you have to be cheap.
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So you work 6 months a year then thats why u have so much time to be on here during the day :smartass2:
 
I class coming on the forums as work.
 
Im going to put my neck on the block here

i would be happy to take this up if i was within a reasonable distance.

providing it was set working hours, their responsibility and they supplied all the materials.
 
la la lame seems to think pricing yourself out of the market is good business acumen, He can't get a full years work and think's we should all do the same!! definitely la la
 
I think it's been an interesting (if not diverted) thread. At least some people have been candid and shown their hand regarding what they charge/earn.

Looks like I need to put my rates up!!
 
If you can get enough work at a high price then you wont have to work as many days, great if you can get the work and fair play to anyone who is doing that. That strategy wont work for everyone, I know a guy who does one or two boiler changes a week and earns a fortune doing so. He does a good job and gets recommendations even though he is very expensive, he only ever works 2-4 days a week.

£160 a day isn't great money, but if you are struggling for work then its guaranteed money in the bank for a couple of weeks which can be very handy especially in summer when the work is a bit slower.
 
its more than i get subbying on a day rate for most local firms, but then theres a plumber in every street around my parts.
 
Whilst I agree with lame plumbers general idea I also think £160 a day in Lincoln for sub contracting is actually more than the average. The work advertised is sub contracting and is for somebody whos struggling for work.
I used to work for 120 a day but was without my gas. We'd all like to be earning 80k a year but then if it was that easy, literally everybody would be doing it as opposed to one plumber living on every street!
 
seem to have got a fewof u thinking and if you gain out of this so much the better, those that think Im la la will have to put up with shelf stacking when its all to late
 
A few harsh comments here, I am on the side of not dropping your rates, and charging what you're worth, the rate quoted in the OP was fairly decent, it wasn't peanuts, and to re-iterate what has already been said to just turn up, graft, and go home, not too bad.

I work in North Wales and North West England, and I aim to earn £200 a day for gas work, £100-£150 for plumbing work.

I have worked for as much as £300 and as low as £50 a day. If I am busy I charge what I am worth, and don't worry about losing the job to somebody else.

If I have nothing on, I can either a) bite my tongue and do the job for slightly less or b) lose the job and get into financial trouble. In this case I choose a). Work for slightly less.

I cannot stand people who use the recession to abuse workers. What has happened to workers rights nowadays? They seem to have gone completely out of the window and nobody bats an eyelid. The country is run by reptilian lizards from the lower 4th dimension!
 
I think that everyone has different circumstances & what one person needs to earn is different from the next ...I personally agree with lame on this,as at the moment I have lots of work I'm earning well & don't need to chase .....however I know very well that next year could be another story & at the end of the day I need to put food on the table so then £160 might look attractive
 
The local council lads round here get £11.96 plus incentive. I know some of you can earn more but £160 a day to somebody will be a god send.
 
What does the JIB say a plumber should be paid?
 
Where is the OP?

They legged it 50 posts ago!!

Seriously these post should be locked as soon and no one allowed to reply if this is what they end up like . . .
 
I think it's a very interesting thread. If you can charge top whack and stay busy then good luck to you as long as your not ripping people off and your charges are clear from the start. I take home less than £60 a day and I work hard for that. My boss is a multi millionaire and doing very nicely thank you.
 
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I think it's a very interesting thread. If you can charge top whack and stay busy then good luck to you as long as your not ripping people off and your charges are clear from the start. I take home less than £60 a day and I work hard for that. My boss is a multi millionaire and doing very nicely thank you.
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What work are you doing for that foggy if you don't mind me asking?
 
fogarty said:
I think it's a very interesting thread. If you can charge top whack and stay busy then good luck to you as long as your not ripping people off and your charges are clear from the start. I take home less than £60 a day and I work hard for that. My boss is a multi millionaire and doing very nicely thank you.
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Not many multi millionaire plumbers
 
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