need to see this new pipe straightener / new tool

[TBServices]

Can i ask, why would you ever bother running long microbore runs, that are visible? I can not see a positive reason for doing it, it costs more, takes more time to install and then is much more susceptible to damage once it is there.

I honestly do not think a tool like this, can ever pay for itself.

If I had the means to straighten micro bore, I would, regardless of whether it was on show or not. In walls, behind units, under floors, whatever, I would still love to be able to straighten the pipe.

I think it looks like a top piece of kit mate, and I would use it. Only thing is, there's a lot more important tools to buy that cost 30 quid!


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[gav8]

If I had the means to straighten micro bore, I would, regardless of whether it was on show or not. In walls, behind units, under floors, whatever, I would still love to be able to straighten the pipe.

Don't you feel you would just be wasting your time and costing yourself money? If you work for somebody, i am quite confident they would tell you to cut it out or get off the job.

 

[TBServices]

I work for myself and I'm quite anal about the way things look, even when I know they'll be hidden. Also I think it would save time when threading through holes etc, as it won't be catching on stuff cos it's bent. Each to their own I guess but personally I see this as being quicker than straightening out by hand, with better results.


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[gav8]

Just different techniques of doing things i suppose. The only reason i ever use 10mm is to bend it round skirting or if in spec, to drop it down behind dry lining, if i ever had the need to do a long run it would be in PB and would never require me to need it straight.

 

[Dannypipe]

Looks like a good little tool. Maybe a bit of a gadget and not vital toolbox fodder, but it certainly looks like it works.

I don't think I'd pay £30 for it. If it was a tenner, I'd chuck one in the tool box for the sake of it. £30 is too much in my opinion, but then your friend may have ploughed every penny he had, and borrowed some to boot just to bring this to market. In which case I'd be concerned for him!

Dragons Den maybe?!

 

[AWheating]

we all have our own idea's and standards of work. Me personally weather its behind plaster board, under a floor or surface run i would try my best to straighten the pipe. Straight 10mm is easier to clip, easier to tape up, easier to bend, generally easier to install. Ive fitted hundreds of radiators in 10mm copper, mostly behind plaster or in studwork and i always straighten the pipework as best i can.

 

[AWheating]

Can i ask, why would you ever bother running long microbore runs, that are visible? I can not see a positive reason for doing it, it costs more, takes more time to install and then is much more susceptible to damage once it is there.

I honestly do not think a tool like this, can ever pay for itself.

i didnt even mention visable pipework. I would straighten 10mm drops in walls,plaster, under the floor and so on.

 

[TBServices]

i didnt even mention visable pipework. I would straighten 10mm drops in walls,plaster, under the floor and so on.

Ditto


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[MGP]

I'm with most of the others on this one, I've piped up 100's of rads for for various councils in 10mm copper, and I still like to be neat in my work, this looks like an excellent tool that you can just carry in the toolbox, unfortunately though I wouldn't pay £30, if I saw it on the shelf tagged at around £10 £15 I would deffinatly buy one! well done mate, nice job!

 

[markfxy]

Will it do 16mm multilayer pipe I could see a use for it straightening that type of pipe might be worth speaking to uponor if they could market it in europe you could be on to a winner!

 

[uwantsome]

I think this is a fantastic tool. I would buy one

 

[marvoni]

It's a good looking tool. Can it straighten various diameters of soft drawn pipe? Is it adjustable? Reason I ask is it might have a place in the HVACR tool market. We use soft drawn sizes ranging for 1/8" to 7/8" in refrigeration installations and the larger sizes are a real pain to straighten. Another possibility is sell one mounted on a roll holder so when installing the guys can load the size of pipe they're using and pull off the required lengths through you device. Maybe a more robust option would be necessary for sizes over half inch.

If you send me one I'll take it around some of the South African HVAC national suppliers for comments and to test the water.

 

[gav8]

If it had come to the market 10 years ago, it may have made some money. Well done to the creator, but times have moved on, you are too late.

 

[Guest123]

Does anyone actually use microbore these days on heating installs?

 

[gav8]

Does anyone actually use microbore these days on heating installs?

People use it for a run over 5 meters, that is the problem

 

[AWheating]

Does anyone actually use microbore these days on heating installs?

yes, quoting for a job which requires 10mm copper this week, drops in solid brick walls.

 

[gav8]

yes, quoting for a job which requires 10mm copper this week, drops in solid brick walls.

As opposed to cavity? Or stud frame?

 

[AWheating]

As opposed to cavity? Or stud frame?

i dont really understand your question? the wall is already there, im not building it.

 

[gav8]

Well, there are a few different types of wall. Why are you explicitly using 10mm for a solid brick wall?

 

[AWheating]

because thats what the customer has requested. Specific use of copper and removal of all plastic from the system. Its a old property and has a mish mash of materials with an external boiler house and no system controls at all. I think theres some older hep2o installed which is an accident waiting to happen. The only thing staying is the rads with new valves.

they also have had rodent problems in the loft where alot of the pipework is going to go.

 

[gav8]

They have a rodent problem? You are happy to do an install when there is a chance of a rodent infestation?

I understand requests, but they do not know better than us, is the plastic no good for use?

 

[AWheating]

well they have caught a few in the loft spaces in the past year or two and the loft has traps so we best take care . The customer does not want any plastic pipe and i would not use it in this instance anyway because fittings are to big for pipe routes. half the floor has joists only 125 high so we cant run in them, so alot of surface running which will be skirting boxed which is how alot of its run already. The house layout is different heights and shapes and nothing is straight forward.

i know exactly how good plastic can be in suitable situations, i have first fixed hundreds and hundreds of new build with plastic, from standard 3 beds to huge multi million pound house's and plastic was the only option with the joist system and wall types but its not suitable for alot of my current work either due to contract spec or installation needs.

 

[uwantsome]

Im yet to meet a single customer that is happy with having push fit. They always want copper and i mainly use 10mm copper for radiators. Never had a single problem with it