magnacleanse

[ambrosia]

has anyone tried Magnaclease yet
[DLMURL="http://www.adeytv.co.uk/video_magnacleanse2.shtml"]ADEY - MagnaClean Professional2 video[/DLMURL]

they claim because its done while the heating system is hot its better than a powerflush and only takes 2 hours
I'm sceptical, but I'd love to hear thoughts of those who have used it

 

[galaxy_plumbing]

i never had problem cleaning system with my filter until today. system was designed and sludged so badly that i had to give up. im saving for power flush machine now. also you cant use it if boiler/pump is not working

 

[jase158]

2 hours (if used in conjunction with a powerflush machine)

 

[AWheating]

how long it takes to clean a system depends on the system, its size and condition before what you connect to it.

adey has some good advertising, but believable is not what id call it. its never going to be as good as a powerflush. How dose there filter remove non magnetic debris? you can use a power flush machine when the heating is hot, you dump the water and replace with fresh with a machine, you can dose and remove acid chems, etc..... etc....... a powerflush machine does alot more.

they will probably make a powerflush machine one day and advertise its better than a magnetic filter alone. Ive got some chocolate hot water bottles, they are the best!

 

[bennythedip]

I bought it for situations where only need to flush couple of rads that aren't too badly sludged. Tried it recently on system that was very bad and all rads were heating up great after 2 hours of using agitator and filters but got call 2 days later to say they were as bad as ever. Went back and did same but again no better 2 days later. I would keep the cash and buy a powerflush machine

 

[Barry98]

ive got one and i connect it on soon as boilers up and running while am cementing flue in clipping pipes hoovering up etc

 

[Nostrum]

I've got both now, mediocre powerflush machine and a magnacleanse. They both work well together, or if the systems reasonable I can run a magna cleanse on it as part of the swap as standard and yes within a couple of hours your can get quite a bit of crap out.

The only thing I don't like is adey recommend linking cold feed and main with a pressure guage and pressurising an open vent system. I don't as don't want the liability if it can't take the pressure.

If the systems that bad then I would rent a beastly powerflush rather than have money tied up in rarely used expensive equipment, or sub it out to a specialist contractor who can take the risk and guarantee not messing up the carpets.

 

[village idiot]

If the systems that bad then I would rent a beastly powerflush rather than have money tied up in rarely used expensive equipment, or sub it out to a specialist contractor who can take the risk and guarantee not messing up the carpets.

And who is the customer going to blame should the carpet gets messed up?

 

[Nostrum]

The bloke working in the house, then probably a call to me, I will get them professionally cleaned, or if needs be replaced along with an apology to the customer and claim the money back via the contractor or if required their insurance?


Not quite sure what your question was trying to imply?

 

[village idiot]

Not quite sure what your question was trying to imply?

As a customer, if I engage you to fit a boiler and you contract someone to power flush the system, I think it's only fair that I hold you responsible for any problems caused. Why should I be responsible for dealing with you and your contractor?

And what makes you so convinced that the contractor will honour your 'arrangement' to pay for any damage caused to carpets?

In effect, my question was implying that at the end of the day, you are responsible, that's all

 

[Nostrum]

As a business owner, I'm fully aware of what I'm responsible for and how to deal with customers should a problem arise. I'm also aware of how to deal with contractors and to have contracts and procedures in place to ensure they are insured and liable for any damage they cause.

This thread is about the equipment in question, not the way I choose to run a business, the only reason it was mentioned was to justify my reasonings for buying this equipment as opposed to other types in the first place.

If you had any experience in this part of the market, you would be aware that it carries a certain amount of risk.

As said, I could rent a piece of equipment I have limited knowledge in using, or contract it out to a specialist. Being a specialist, you would expect them to have all the knowledge and equipment required to do the job professionally, after all that is what they are being paid for? Given the fact they are being paid to carry out a professional service, I don't think its unreasonable to ask them to cover the cost of any damage if it should arise.

I'm not trying to shift my responsibility to my customer at all, but I am designating some of the responsibility to the paid contractor, the same as any other contractor and sub contractor arrangement although ultimately the liability of the customers property remains with me.

 

[village idiot]

I think you should calm down man.
Infact, just forget I made any comment and as you say my views are not what the thread is about. So, stick to the thread

 

[kay-jay]

i have the magnacleanse, and i like it. in fact i think its an excellent bit of kit.

however it does have its limitations.

biggest problem for me, is on combi systems, the boiler cycling on and off is a pain in the bum. as said before it can only be used when the existing boiler is operational and has obvious limitations regarding non magnetic debris.

however the big advantage over a flushing machine is you dont need to dump the water therefore you retain your cleansing chemicals for the full duration without the expense of chucking in another bottle.

combine with a flushing machine however and you remove all the negative points as your combined setup can now be used on a system with non operational boiler without dumping and get rid of non-magnetic debris.

now for the trump card

if you combine your flusher/magnacleanse with a george forman grill you can do all of the above while munching bacon butties:coolgleamA:

 

[AWheating]

i have the magnacleanse, and i like it. in fact i think its an excellent bit of kit.

however it does have its limitations.

biggest problem for me, is on combi systems, the boiler cycling on and off is a pain in the bum. as said before it can only be used when the existing boiler is operational and has obvious limitations regarding non magnetic debris.

however the big advantage over a flushing machine is you dont need to dump the water therefore you retain your cleansing chemicals for the full duration without the expense of chucking in another bottle.

combine with a flushing machine however and you remove all the negative points as your combined setup can now be used on a system with non operational boiler without dumping and get rid of non-magnetic debris.

now for the trump card

if you combine your flusher/magnacleanse with a george forman grill you can do all of the above while munching bacon butties:coolgleamA:

i dont see the not dumping being an advantage. dumping gets rid of the non magnetic debris so its a big advantage imo. You dont need a second bottle of cleaner if you follow the correct proceedure.

 

[Ermintrude]

Newer mags got a port for dumping on the flow hose?

 

[kay-jay]

i dont see the not dumping being an advantage. dumping gets rid of the non magnetic debris so its a big advantage imo. You dont need a second bottle of cleaner if you follow the correct proceedure.

I doubt many systems would have so much non magnetic debris in them that a dump would be required mid flush.