How to connect to toilet plastic valve

[kasser]

1 x 15 -1/2 tap connector compression - is that what goes on the plastic valve end?
Is it this one? Why is it so cheap at less than a quid?
Toolstation sells it at 2 for £4.34.
Do they always come with a washer inside?

Compression ISO valve - this one?
There is already such a valve in place, are you asking me to replace it?

The only problem with all this is that the 2 elbows next to each other will take too much space. The vertical pipes are nearly aligned to each other. But that wasn't my question anyway - the tap connector was what I was after.

Bending the pipes would be the solution here I guess, but I don't have one. I might use a piece of plastic pipe and try to bend it ever so slightly, though the pipe will be so short it's going to be hard to, and there won't be clips holding it in place. It might put too much stress on the plastic valve end too.

Regarding soldering - I don't have the equipment. I'm too nervous too to have a big naked flame like this in the house.

Thanks.

 

[rpm]

If the valve works then there is no need to replace it.

If you can buy a shorter good quality flexi then loose fit it to the cistern then add a short piece of copper pipe between the flexi and the isolating valve to suit.
Wouldn`t try and bend plastic pipe to suit that.

 

[steadyon]

Buy a longer flexi and put a loop in it. Crude but effective.

 

[Harvest Fields]

Buy a longer flexi and put a loop in it. Crude but effective.

I don't like that. But each to there own.

 

[jtsplumbing]

Cant see where the copper pipe starts, if coming up from floor just lower service valve by 2" (50mm) or so

 

[kasser]

I don't like that. But each to there own.

I like that. I'm not a pro plumber, so a quick and easy solution suits me.

Last night I broke the toilet though! I had changed the siphon for one with an internal overflow. I used the same doughnut washer but it leaked after I put it all back. So I went out and bought a new washer. Still leaking. I over-tightened the bolt and the cistern cracked. Time to get in a proper plumber...

Is it OK to replace the cistern only? There are not many replacement cisterns out there and they are quite expensive compared to the price of a whole toilet. It would be a shame to throw away existing pan as there is nothing wrong with it. Same with the new siphon I bought as new toilets/cisterns come with siphons I believe.

 

[JCplumb]

You can just get cisterns, they're not standard though so might not fit properly against your pan.
New cistern about £40, you can get a bog to go from the big sheds for £50, or a nicer looking one from a merchants for about £80.
The issue with replacing toilets though is the pans' footprint, sometimes you're left with gaps in the floor covering.
If the footprint isn't going to be a problem then I'd go with a new loo. If your new valve is a fluidmaster or another decent make you might want to use it in place of the one that comes with the new loo.

 

[kasser]

Footprint no problem. I'm worried about the cistern not fitting properly against the pan. This is what happened last time, it was leaking just there despite replacing the doughnut washer and I ended up overtightening and breaking the cistern.

I saw a toilet selling at £40 on Cheapsuites. Not worth buying a cistern at £80 which may not fit right. If you think the quality of a £40 toilet is going to be rubbish, I saw others at around £80, some more, some less.

Yes, I did replace with fluidmaster.

 

[Harvest Fields]

You would be better off just changing the whole toilet. Cuts all the hassle out of I am honest.

 

[kasser]

Anything specific I should look for in a new close-coupled toilet?