Pressfit

[townfanjon]

Last saturday I used my first press fit machine , and TBH I was blown away, ok fittings are expensive, machines are expensive but my god they are clean and fast .

I always said I would stop old school and stick to solder, but I may have a dabble.

Do any of you guys use them, if you do what makes would you say are the best , any ones you would avoid.

Thanks in advance chaps

 

[lame plumber]

Dear forum members, remember this isnt a facebook forum.................................

 

[townfanjon]

Lame, seriously have you seen or tried one

 

[ShaunCorbs]

love them too and yes there slightly more but not that expensive and geberit i use and very handy when theres water in the pipe/you cant turn it off

Geberit Mapress | Pipekit

another plus you dont have to remove the meter to t into it (on gas)

what machine did you use?

 

[lame plumber]

love the idea of press fit, but am sick n tired of the converts on facebook going on and on bout them, if you get my drift.

 

[townfanjon]

Might have the spelling wrong but gebberit

 

[townfanjon]

love the idea of press fit, but am sick n tired of the converts on facebook going on and on bout them, if you get my drift.

I was one mate until last saturday

 

[hammers4spanner]

Couldn't care a monkeys for it still a pipe , still a fitting and still plumbing .

 

[Tjdservices]

Did you go on the manufacturers course? I was looking into these earlier

 

[Rickster123]

What's wrong with soldered joints? I must be getting old.

 

[hammers4spanner]

What's wrong with soldered joints? I must be getting old.

Oh your so yesterday

 

[ShaunCorbs]

What's wrong with soldered joints? I must be getting old.

nothing each has there place

each has its positives and negatives

 

[lame plumber]

this is facebook all over....................

 

[townfanjon]

I am off on a demo in the morning , might treat myself

 

[ShaunCorbs]

I am off on a demo in the morning , might treat myself

aco203 looks very good this time of year

 

[townfanjon]

Aco203 ?? Lol sorry you will have to help

 

[Tjdservices]

I'm thinking about it as developers I'm working with want to cut out heat work in roof spaces for insurance and we're looking at putting unvented cylinders in the roof spaces.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Aco203 ?? Lol sorry you will have to help

not a problem

you have two options

https://www.novopress.de/en/pipe-co...imensions-up-to-35-40-mm/comfort-line-aco102/

https://www.novopress.de/en/pipe-co...s-up-to-108-110-mm/comfort-line-aco203eco203/

 

[townfanjon]

Will report back tomorrow .

Anybody else please add your comments

 

[townfanjon]

I'm thinking about it as developers I'm working with want to cut out heat work in roof spaces for insurance and we're looking at putting unvented cylinders in the roof spaces.

I used one in a loft on saturday , absolute doodle.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Will report back tomorrow .

Anybody else please add your comments

if its geberit dont forget your £250 of free fittings (think i saw somewhere)

 

[townfanjon]

if its geberit dont forget your £250 of free fittings (think i saw somewhere)

I am a yorkshire man , I never forget anything that has the word 'free' in it

 

[SimonG]

Not had a play, yet. Just concerned about the costs to get it started.

Would also assume you have to give it a little bit more thought if you cant get the jaws in somewhere ie preassemble a section before fastening in place?

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Not had a play, yet. Just concerned about the costs to get it started.

Would also assume you have to give it a little bit more thought if you cant get the jaws in somewhere ie preassemble a section before fastening in place?

yes you have to give thought but tbh the same a trying to not burn behind etc

 

[townfanjon]

Not had a play, yet. Just concerned about the costs to get it started.

Would also assume you have to give it a little bit more thought if you cant get the jaws in somewhere ie preassemble a section before fastening in place?

Yep pal, that is the big one, theres now one manufacturer that has a 45degree jaw, but yes throwing them about under a kitchen sink , will not be easy

 

[Tjdservices]

What the price of say a 15mm elbow?

 

[townfanjon]

Shaun on a rough percentage how would you compare your usage ... Solder to press ?

 

[townfanjon]

What the price of say a 15mm elbow?

The lads on saturday said roughly speed fit prices, i will let you know tomorrow , but the gas ones are a lot dearer

 

[Tjdservices]

The lads on saturday said roughly speed fit prices, i will let you know tomorrow , but the gas ones are a lot dearer

Cheers

 

[kris]

I'm same, never used one but they seem to be getting real popular, I've been looking at them myself, it makes a difference what your be using it for, I'm just domestic so only need up to 28 jaw.

 

[Billy Bob Bob]

I used one in a loft on saturday , absolute doodle.

you was up with allan and the lads,think i seen the pics

 

[SimonG]

Seen it on a few bio mass installs when I've been doing other things. Looks neat and tidy. Also seen 5 holiday cottages done in mlcp and pressfit. Looks gash, all surface mounted.

 

[townfanjon]

you was up with allan and the lads,think i seen the pics

Lol, yep I was the coal miner .

A great day, it was a really nice feeling to give a 'bit back'

 

[ShaunCorbs]

how did it go the press day?

 

[townfanjon]

Yep ok cheers . They are that easy my six year old granddaughter could 'press' lol .
For normal domestic the 12 volt is spot on , the 18 volt is a bit of a beast, and on most domestic jobs is miles too big.

As regards price they are putting together a package in the new year , machine and fittings for ?? , we will have to wait and see.

I quite fancy one , if I just did boiler installs I would 100% buy one, but I do a lot of plumbing and just cant see me getting one under a sink , bath etc etc . So will give it some thought.

Any more opinions guys ?

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Yep ok cheers . They are that easy my six year old granddaughter could 'press' lol .
For normal domestic the 12 volt is spot on , the 18 volt is a bit of a beast, and on most domestic jobs is miles too big.

As regards price they are putting together a package in the new year , machine and fittings for ?? , we will have to wait and see.

I quite fancy one , if I just did boiler installs I would 100% buy one, but I do a lot of plumbing and just cant see me getting one under a sink , bath etc etc . So will give it some thought.

Any more opinions guys ?

you can get it anywhere if you think about it and plan ahead but your right they 12v/10.8v would be ideal for you

 

[SimonG]

Be interesting to hear what the cost and package is

Currently do a lot of bathrooms, but am looking at pushing more oil installs next year.

 

[townfanjon]

He did say, there whole business model is to get plumbers / heat engineers off soldering and in to 'pressing '
Ok it may have been sales bull, but strangely he only was interested in the guys who didnt press and wanted to put together a package . One lad was an original 'presser' ( dont know if thats what you are called , most of face book calls you a press fit wank** lol ) and he really didnt seem bothered about selling just the machine, or thats the impression I got .

 

[joni os]

As an alternative to hot work in specific situations pressing has its place, although conex push fit will fulfil the same function for water. My concern is the three alternative fittings, water, gas and solar per pipe size, together with differing makers of equipment and fittings means mistakes are inevitable. The skill of properly formed end feed joints should not be abandoned or downgraded by sales propaganda or ill informed insurance industry.