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found this in my garage the other day, i'll bet some people have never seen one of these. uk 001.jpg
 
I'll no waste it for the young ones.

You will need to attend to the last one if you ever want to use it and get a decent result.
 
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Afraid I am just about old enough to know what they all are. Used them before a little. First one may stump a few, but I knew it straight away, as used one for hard jobs. Keep the kids guessing!
 
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I must be old! 1; Life before battery drills 2; needs attention 3; I feel sorry for the moles
 
1) aint that one of them thingies that you banged into a wall then turned manually for putting in plugs?

2) looks like some kind of swaging tool???

3) tamz wallet! (bought in 1943 and stood the test of time as it seldom gets used cos like most scotsmen he's tighter than 2 coats of paint!)...............................................................or a moleskin for wiped joints on lead


how did i do?
 
1, never used one myself but I have a few from my grandad. I ground them to a chisel and use them for raking out mortar. Must have been a hard job - guess thats why you see so many pipes bracketed to existing timber rather than walls where they can.

2, Is it some kind of tool for expanding the ends of pipes?

3, Moleskin (I have my grandads one here somewhere. Last used it when I was 13 and my grandad showed me!)
 
1) aint that one of them thingies that you banged into a wall then turned manually for putting in plugs?

2) looks like some kind of swaging tool???

3) tamz wallet! (bought in 1943 and stood the test of time as it seldom gets used cos like most scotsmen he's tighter than 2 coats of paint!)...............................................................or a moleskin for wiped joints on lead


how did i do?
2 out of 3 mate. i'll keep you guessing which one you got wrong. Theres a few on here that might think no3 a wallet but in current climate its definetly no a plumbers wallet, its far too thick for that.
 
I'll no waste it for the young ones.

You will need to attend to the last one if you ever want to use it and get a decent result.
I, its been a while since i wiped a joint, might have smoked a few though but thats another story.
 
1, never used one myself but I have a few from my grandad. I ground them to a chisel and use them for raking out mortar. Must have been a hard job - guess thats why you see so many pipes bracketed to existing timber rather than walls where they can.

2, Is it some kind of tool for expanding the ends of pipes?

3, Moleskin (I have my grandads one here somewhere. Last used it when I was 13 and my grandad showed me!)
why do I suddenly feel old at 48 when you start talking about your grandad. i'll post correct name for no2 later unless someone beats me to it.
 
I know them as flaring tools for doing cup joints on lead. That's a mole skin. You'll also need a flux for that mole skin
 
Wasn't it Tallow ( animal fat, for those that haven't heard of it )that you used for the moleskins for wiping lead joints? Think I have some in a tin - mice would eat it, if you leave it out.
 
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isnt number 1 one of those paddles for hitting the apprentice with ?
 
i know them all, might have the first 2 in the garage somewhere, used brown paper for the 3rd one
 
I remember that common ailment "hammer rash" ... often contracted whilst using No1 :)
 
plug drift,flaring tool for lead,moleskin for lead wiping and yes its tallow for lead not flux
 
1) rawldrill - left many a part bit in walls as an apprentice
2) looks like some sort of punch
3) moleskin / wiping cloth - still got mine and clamps- still gets you out of a hole sometimes.
 
Go on Tamz, put me out of my misery, reveal what exactly no2 is ?
 
Here is another one. Different version.
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Seen a few people nearly losing a finger with this type.
 
I presume it is like my ( becareful how i spell this) tampin - small wooden coned shape tool for flaring old lead pipe
 
I presume it is like my ( becareful how i spell this) tampin - small wooden coned shape tool for flaring old lead pipe

Similar thing but for copper. We call them drifts up here. Used for manipulative type B compressions.
 
You good old boys really knew how to do plumbing proper.

An inside out mole, and a lump of steel (that you clump with a hammer) was all you needed to create works of such quality, they've lasted decades.

Of course, I'm very handy with a pushfit coupling and a few flexi hoses.....but then I was born in the late 70's, not plumbing during them.
 
Them flexi's come in 1.5m length now. used 2 a few days ago when turning a bath round. saved me 3m of pipe , 2 bath adapters & 2 straights. came in pushfit as well. No skint knuckles nowadays. Easy game this plumbing .
 
Came to look at a property which had been empty for a year and the new occupant tried to turn the water on and whoosh! Flexis eveywhere including to the radiators, and all plastic. Mice and rats had been very busy (with the electrics also!) and what they hadn't ruined, the frost had finished off so decided to rip out all and replace.
 
When you take a good look at most scrap flexis, they are scary quality - not much different than a shower hose. The crimped end isnt up to much & frost just pulls it apart.
 
Came to look at a property which had been empty for a year and the new occupant tried to turn the water on and whoosh! Flexis eveywhere including to the radiators, and all plastic. Mice and rats had been very busy (with the electrics also!) and what they hadn't ruined, the frost had finished off so decided to rip out all and replace.
Great things mice Newtons law = plastic pipe + mice = £ . made my fortune out of mice. ps it's cats i dont like.
 
i can see the benefit of plastic for certain jobs, and have used it myself, but flexis??????? NEVER, and i mean NEVER would i lower myself to fit a flexi pipe on plumbing, i think the quality is rank and a finished job with them anywhere looks mince
 
i can see the benefit of plastic for certain jobs, and have used it myself, but flexis??????? NEVER, and i mean NEVER would i lower myself to fit a flexi pipe on plumbing, i think the quality is rank and a finished job with them anywhere looks mince
id like to see you connect some of the closed back wc suites with out a flexi of some sort it would be impossible
 
id like to see you connect some of the closed back wc suites with out a flexi of some sort it would be impossible

difficult YES
challenging YES
impossible NO
thats the difference between real plumbers and those who play at it haha
 
what about the monobloc taps that come supplied with flexi's? can't seem to buy the rigid tails anywhere they just come supplied with some but not all taps.

i'm with steve on the cc w/c issue as well some of them are downright impossible to fit without a flexi only possible alternative is placcy pipe that has enough flex to pass through the double shelf pans
 
some modern WCs are impossible to fit up with rigid pipework.
 
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