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Never paint when your drunk :smile:
Is it really a 4 year apprenticeship in tiling? Never would have thought there could be that much to it. I'm not trying to be facetious, just curious. Surely after you've learned how to identify and prepare surfaces, use batons, work with adhesive and grout and set things out properly it's just practise. I'd have thought a year working with someone would be more than enough.
Jeez you really do ive up to your signature sorry if I sound condesending.
the old saying of been a master of one trade is outdated now IMHO , customers rightly dont want a jack of all they want a master of all. i know my limits , i can tile,palster,plumb and heat and repair my weakness is electrics hence why its back to college. one step at a time ash maste what your learning before you take another trade on
I'd love to be a fly on the wall in the locked off trusted advisor section of the tilers forum. Gall B will be telling everyone that all plumbers learn to tile watching a £2 B&Q DVD!
Not true, mine was the Homebase version. :38:
When i started my time there was no such trade as a tiler as far as i know. Tiling was done mainly by plasterers and plumbers used to build tiled grates.
I really like seeing old tilework. There are lots of old tenements up here with tiled stairs. The work is amazing to look at if you take the time to look properly.
Well mate, there's always the Alloa Plumbers benevolent fund, all donations welcome.....I'm concentrating on the plumbing/gas side of things for now but I have resettlement funds to spend so may as well get something good that I can use along side that.
WaterTight if you knew anything about the Building trade at all you would know thats not true
if you find it boring its usally because your no good at it & you shouldnt be doing it
We have some amazing geometric and encaustic tiling work in our village hall foyer. It's quite a work of art, and the planning and design stage must have taken longer than the tiling itself. It dates from approximately 100 years ago.
Trouble is I tend to end up doing a lot of my tiling work as a lot of the local tilers I have seen don't meet the standards of work I would expect from them.
Take it you never heard of Toflo Jackson Tam? Never seen a Victorian Geometric floor?
The stairs you mention are hand fixed in sand cement, some of the ones in Glasgow are the work of my Grandad, his Dad was a Terrazzo layer/Tiler again a diffrent trade, Grates where done by Grate builders/Stone masons. Time served Tilers Render so maybe why you confuse us with plasterers
It is affecting us all.the Handyman culture or the im going to do a couple of weeks course, call my self a tradesman undercut every body else is part of the reason quality of work is so low in this country
i agree with what system3 says theres nothing wrong with good healthy banter and networking and am glad to know youCame on here to make some contacts & listen to some of the UK's finest, not upset them :smiley2:
Loads of tiling DVDs on the net armyash that will give you a heads up before the course.
http://item.mobileweb.ebay.co.uk/viewitem?itemId=280810564746&siteId=3&isClassified=false
Take it you never heard of Toflo Jackson Tam? Never seen a Victorian Geometric floor?
try homebase they do this tiling dvdView attachment 5108
Tofflo Jackson don't do geometric encaustic tiles. That's Craven Dunnill Jackfield. Tofflo Jackson do marble, granite, natural stone etc. May have laid encaustic floors in the past but they don't supply them.
As above, none of us plumbers/gas men would try and do some of the work you do Gal, but the basic tiles going in a bathroom is a simple job. I have never had any training in tiling, did my own and went from there, tiles, borders etc in a bathroom is n ot really challenging is it. That decorative work is for the experienced tiler though.
I have worked on many new build sites and in porivate homes, the standard of tiling on most is no better than I and many other plumbers do, its just they are quicker.
I recently bought £1500 quids worth of Rubi Bridge cutter, for tiling.
Do I generally tile, no. Can I tile a bathroom as well as most tilers I have met....yes.
I can't do all the other specialist tiling that Gall.b mentioned. However in bathrooms, I have had to learn how to tile, and plaster. I hadn't done either for about 2 years until the other week.
Tiling is a specialist trade, however to expect a plumber to know how to tile a bathroom, is akin to expecting an electrician to know how to change an immersion heater. They are so closely linked.
Plain stuff in homes may appear easier, but the preperation can be the same, using the correct primers, trowel selection, addy/grout selection, correct sealers & knowing about the material your working with.
If your self taught who teaches you these things & why have the hassle when you can sub it out and get it done in half the time & still make a bit off it?
As for house bashing on new builds, the guys are on a pitifull price usally onto poor prep, cant say I blame them for not leaving a top job.
phil, your right a £2 dvd aint gonna make you a tiler. i think b&q are only selling them to get people to buy there tiles etc but it does give you some basic stuff & it helped me when tiling my own bathroom. i would'nt do tiling in someone elses house though, better left to the professionals. i'm sure the dvd is a joke to a proper tiler.We are making fools of ourselves really with talk of diy DVD's, the B&Q one is a joke. Granted it does have good setting out advise but then spoils its self by recommending ready mixed adhesive.
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