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John Cotton
Is it possible to make a reasonable living as a plumber, without doing gas work and getting Corgi registered ? Therefore concentrating on smaller jobs, leaks and bathrooms etc
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fuzzy
Hi mate,
you are mistaking qualifications for registration they are 2 different things. I have read your other post that makes the same mistake. There are conversion qualifications already being prepared or already here for the many polish and similar who have come over with their own gas qualifications. |Thats fine it may prove competency but it does not mean you can work on gas for money. If somebody here passes their ACs they cannot work or charge for work should i say unless they are gas safe registered (previously corgi). So the point you make is irrelevant for paid work. If somebody with the qual you mention wants to work in their own house then maybe you are correct
I wish people would realise that corgi are only a registration body the same as the gas safe register, qualifications are what you need to become registered, that and about £220 a year
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bobpape
Yes and if you look at the HSE prosecutions site HSE Prosecutions Area
You will see the fine for non complience is around the same as you get for speeding
but no points,
And unlike speeding I am not so sure non complience is a Criminal Offence
You will see the fine for non complience is around the same as you get for speeding
but no points,
And unlike speeding I am not so sure non complience is a Criminal Offence
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Plouasne
I stand by my comments that if a person has the relevant qualifications and is approved to do the same type of work in his country whether its a free registration or a paid for registration, PROVIDING that the qualifications the said person holds are of the same standard or higher than the member country that he is working in, there has to be an automatic right of recognition of his qualifications and registration, by the said state that he is working in, under the free movement of labour laws, the only thing that might stop the said person from working at first is if he has not got the relevant papers translated in to the language of the country he is working in, when they are translated into English, there is jack s**t the UK powers can do, there would be nothing stopping you to come to France and do gas work, providing the you can hard solder the copper services, instead of soft soldering, conversely a person with Qualigaz registration P G (Professionnel Gaz) could go to the UK and work, because the Qualigaz standards are of a higher nature
What you are implying is that if I was a a French artisan P G, and came to the UK to do the heating in a house that a French person had brought, I would not be allowed to work on the gas supply, that comes under the restriction of work and is illegal under EU laws for the free movement of goods and labour
What you are implying is that if I was a a French artisan P G, and came to the UK to do the heating in a house that a French person had brought, I would not be allowed to work on the gas supply, that comes under the restriction of work and is illegal under EU laws for the free movement of goods and labour
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fuzzy
i am sorry but you are missing the point. Regardles of where you are from adn which gas qualifications you have, to work for money in the UK you must be registered. To register you must pove competence and this costs anyone around £220 per year.
It doesnt matter if you have ACS or prove competence any other way you cannot work without being gas safe reistered WHERE EVER YOU COME FROM!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Plouasne
Fuzzy, Can I refer you to this text from the EU, [DLMURL="http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=OJ:L:2005:255:0022:01:EN:HTML"]EUR-Lex - 32005L0036 - EN[/DLMURL] The free movement of labour in the EU, its quite a lengthy tome, but says it all, the legislation covers just about every trade/profession, and is quite categoric in listing the hows and whys etc, and the mutual recognition of member states professional qualifications in another member state and the right to work in another member state without having to undergo further training, providing that the training in the member state the person was trained in is equilivent to the member state they are going to work in
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Puddle
You a quite right,however you are talking about training,not registration,you have to register in this country to work on gas for reward,likewise if there is a registration scheme in France ,we would have to register
One day there may be a european registration that covers all but that is not the case at the moment
So yes there is free trade and if your training covers the same as our requirements and visa virsa,no problem,but you will have to get your hand in your pocket to pay for the registration,which basically means your id and qualifications have been checked and any problems with you or your work can be proccessed,what you are doing is allowing a complete paper trail
Which brings up another question,if you are removed from the register here or in another EU state can you just go and work in another Eu state,re-register there or is there a central record
If what you are saying was correct and all you need is training then we would not have to register either
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Plouasne
Puddle,
Would you like me to make enquiries for you and find out, about both the training costs and membership fees, and also if they are recognised in the UK, last time I looked, it was down to the Prefect of the department (the head honcho of the county, or to put it another way the states top legal representative, at local level ) to make the final decision, when the papers had been translated
I have not heard of a central register, for Gas or Electric
Give them a chance, its only been in the last 6 months that speeding tickets cross boarder, has been approved, that's why all French vehicles are having to change number plates (only 7 digits now, the DVLC computer could not read 8 numbers
, spoilt my fun now, I reckon that the file of photos of me in a French reg car, is telephone book size, tripped every one on the A3 from Portsmouth to Wimbledon before now at just after midnight, when I used to run back to the UK- Status
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