Worcester greenstar 8000

[Steve weightman]

Had a read and watched a video of the new greenstar 8000 today first I thought it was a speaker to start with and not a boiler looks smart though but the video had hidden pipes so not so pretty when visible. 50kw as well,blimey, you'll do well to have mains water pressure to benefit from this

 

[ShaunCorbs]

 

[ShaunCorbs]

 

[Steve weightman]

Worcesters gone for it with the Advert seems they've watched the matrix to many times

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Worcesters gone for it with the Advert seems they've watched the matrix to many times

gets us talking about it so i guess so

 

[Steve weightman]

Good access to it for repairs and servicing and automatic filling loop

 

[Harvest Fields]

Saw it at the show the other day. Nice.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

P B Plumber on Twitter

 

[Steve weightman]

Loads of plastic going on and compared to most conpact boilers nowdays a bit on the large side

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Loads of plastic going on and compared to most conpact boilers nowdays a bit on the large side

thats because its not a compact its a cdi

if you want compact look at the 30i

 

[Steve weightman]

thats because its not a compact its a cdi

if you want compact look at the 30i

Manufacturers tending to be moving away from large boilers and going towards kitchen cupboard sizes

 

[Harvest Fields]

Manufacturers tending to be moving away from large boilers and going towards kitchen cupboard sizes

Most of them also dont have a 50kw domestic boiler. I am really not a fan of Worcester but this one looks good.

 

[Steve weightman]

Most of them also dont have a 50kw domestic boiler. I am really not a fan of Worcester but this one looks good.

Expect to see most 50kw run in 22mm maybe

 

[Scott_D]

Most of them also dont have a 50kw domestic boiler. I am really not a fan of Worcester but this one looks good.

50kw combi?

 

[Steve weightman]

50kw combi?

Yep and why would ya

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Expect to see most 50kw run in 22mm maybe

that will be fine if its under 2m and no more than 2 elbows

 

[Harvest Fields]

That’s ok. You can work on upto 35mm at specific times.

 

[Scott_D]

It looks to be missing all the valves in the video?

 

[ShaunCorbs]

It looks to be missing all the valves in the video?

yea the jig hasnt been installed

 

[Scott_D]

yea the jig hasnt been installed

That’s why it looks like you have space to remove the trap then. Will be valves, wires and pipes everywhere after installing

 

[ShaunCorbs]

That’s why it looks like you have space to remove the trap then. Will be valves, wires and pipes everywhere after installing

The jig sits behind the trap wires are to the left of the boiler you can see the grommets

 

[Scott_D]

The jig sits behind the trap wires are to the left of the boiler you can see the grommets

I won’t be convinced WB have a well thought out boiler

 

[ShaunCorbs]

I won’t be convinced WB have a well thought out boiler

Soon find out should see the rep in a few weeks maybe

 

[Harvest Fields]

PRV and condense is combined I believe.

 

[EvilDrPorkChop]

The automatic filling loop is a great idea when one of those plastic parts fail in true Worcester style.

 

[Harvest Fields]

The automatic filling loop is a great idea when one of those plastic parts fail in true Worcester style.

Bet @Rob Foster designed that

 

[Rob Foster]

Bet @Rob Foster designed that

Ha Ha, no I did not and have no part in its inception and final incarnation ...when I design stuff ..you all get to know and I get told off on here
but guess what we have some new toys on their way
regards Rob Foster aka
centralheatking

 

[Chalked]

Looks like an one Worcester, with the prv and expansion vessel moved to a sensible place.
Still has rubbish ally heat exchanger. The rest is just embellishment.

 

[Rob Foster]

Nice one from WB heard about it but as we dont do shows in uk
now I missed it. tasty presentation, as always from Wb...thanks for the link
chking

 

[Rob Foster]

Looks like an one Worcester, with the prv and expansion vessel moved to a sensible place.
Still has rubbish ally heat exchanger. The rest is just embellishment.

and the electrics are still on the bottom so when it leaks new pcb again when will they learn
chking

 

[ShaunCorbs]

The automatic filling loop is a great idea when one of those plastic parts fail in true Worcester style.

Only fill for around 2-3mins I believe before faults out

 

[EvilDrPorkChop]

Only fill for around 2-3mins I believe before faults out

Still a bad leak at 2-3 mins on mains pressure is a fair bit of water. Whether that be a leak on the system or boiler leaking.

Also you've got the issue that when the air in the expansion goes the customer will never know there's an issue as it'll just top back up - unless the computer tells them it's been at 3bar pressure?

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Still a bad leak at 2-3 mins on mains pressure is a fair bit of water. Whether that be a leak on the system or boiler leaking.

Also you've got the issue that when the air in the expansion goes the customer will never know there's an issue as it'll just top back up - unless the computer tells them it's been at 3bar pressure?

True but if it’s lost all the pressure rapidly I don’t think there’s going to be much more mess

They never know now so no different

 

[Harvest Fields]

Still a bad leak at 2-3 mins on mains pressure is a fair bit of water. Whether that be a leak on the system or boiler leaking.

Also you've got the issue that when the air in the expansion goes the customer will never know there's an issue as it'll just top back up - unless the computer tells them it's been at 3bar pressure?

Never happy some people

 

[Gasmk1]

still got the awkward condensate trap though

 

[ShaunCorbs]

still got the awkward condensate trap though

Agree with that I’m sure they could do it half the size

 

[ShaunCorbs]

life 30 kw 1k ish
sytle 30 kw 1.1k ish

all prices plus

not bad for a new gen cdi

sadly its not combined prv / condy

 

[Harvest Fields]

Thought it was combined?

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Thought it was combined?

nope

 

[EvilDrPorkChop]

Not convinced them being combined is a good thing anyway.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Not convinced them being combined is a good thing anyway.

its ok when people terminate condys correctly and they dont freeze if not oooppps

 

[EvilDrPorkChop]

its ok when people terminate condys correctly and they dont freeze if not oooppps

Plus you'll never really tell if it's passing. I like to see my discharges if they're dripping.

 

[Millsy 82]

So basically it's a cdi in a shiny new case.

Who would have a 50kw combi as well. Chuck in a cooker and you getting close to the point of bigger meter. Gas pipe would have to be huge if it's a long run and will take it out of domestic scope.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Yep cdi getting stopped

 

[robdog6000]

Fitted one of the style's last week. The boiler fits onto the normal cdi jig and shares some parts. Prv is much easier to get. The auto filling link (£50 ish) replaces the built in loop. It has to be switched on at the control panel otherwise the board will not recognise it. It can be adjusted for maximum fill time and minimum pressure/target pressure.
If you don't like Worcester's then you probably won't be impressed as it's pretty similar to the cdi.
and it's a bit of a lump...

 

[Scott_D]

Fitted one of the style's last week. The boiler fits onto the normal cdi jig and shares some parts. Prv is much easier to get. The auto filling link (£50 ish) replaces the built in loop. It has to be switched on at the control panel otherwise the board will not recognise it. It can be adjusted for maximum fill time and minimum pressure/target pressure.
If you don't like Worcester's then you probably won't be impressed as it's pretty similar to the cdi.
and it's a bit of a lump...

What size did you fit?

 

[robdog6000]

it was just the 30kw. Pretty simple install. Filling link was an advantage as the boiler was in a loft, so worth the £50 for the customer. Forgot to mention that the gas valve test point needs a T10 bit!

 

[EvilDrPorkChop]

Fitted one of the style's last week. The boiler fits onto the normal cdi jig and shares some parts. Prv is much easier to get. The auto filling link (£50 ish) replaces the built in loop. It has to be switched on at the control panel otherwise the board will not recognise it. It can be adjusted for maximum fill time and minimum pressure/target pressure.
If you don't like Worcester's then you probably won't be impressed as it's pretty similar to the cdi.
and it's a bit of a lump...

TBH, I always thought the Si and CDIs weren't bad boilers. It's more the fact that the plastic parts go, and the PRVs were a nightmare to do. In terms of fitting them they weren't bad, but in terms of long term maintenance (Which we tend to do with our installs) they aren't exactly easy for parts replacement.

Interesting to know about the filling link though.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Finally moving away from the hard slotted

Normally rounds afterward a few years of people messing

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Cdi is being discontinued