is this correct?

[Nostrum]

Don't have to be often at all. There's more than one competent persons scheme. NAPIT, niceic, APHC etc.

plus, you could legally install it all then get building control to sign it off as compliment and it would all be 100% legal.

in fact, I'm pretty sure it is the same for gas. The only limitations are that if you are doing it as a business, you must be gassafe registered. To my knowledge, you could install your own boiler in your own house and get it signed off by building control who would issue a certificate of building regulations compliance and it would be legit.

the words competence is very much in the grey area, and it seems you can only really prove incompetence by mucking it up, which is then easily proven in a court of law. How do you prove competence? Certainly not by qualifications as we all know, there are plenty of idiots out there with all the right bits of paper!

 

[peteheat]

I also think it stupid that oil companies can fill up an oil tank without a care in the world as to how safe that tank is for containing the fuel.

I put a warning sticker on a bulging plastic tank, truck driver told the householder the sticker had to be gone when he got back with the filling nozzle or he may not fill the tank, customer removed the sticker and his tank was filled.

What is unusual about the above is most couldn't care less about the sticker and fill the tank anyway, the following is an example of the risks they are taking:

Estimated cost to clean up a 1,100 litre oil spill is €140,000.00

5 litres of oil can cover one acre of a lake.

A problem with being OFTEC registered is we are responsible because we know the difference between right and wrong, we proved it by passing the exam.

Cowboy Joe can cause the above disasters and at worst get a slap on the wrist, if he can be found.

The members need a much bigger say in the direction OFTEC is taking, we also need to pave the way for them by lobbying our politicians and educating them about the potential dangers of unregulated oil installations.

I still believe we should have a private section in this forum and an OFTEC badge.

If we don't show that we appreciate, respect and value our own skills then why should the public view us as any different to Cowboy Joe?

 

[lame plumber]

I still believe we should have a private section in this forum and an OFTEC badge.

If we don't show that we appreciate, respect and value our own skills then why should the public view us as any different to Cowboy Joe?

been there, tried it, down in flames, not an oily forum really

 

[Billy Bob Bob]

I TOTALLY THINK YOU OIL GUYS SHOULD HAVE THE SAME RESPECT AND access to closed forums as us GSR guys,we are trying to make it happen,its sometimes hard re configuring soft ware to accept it.it will happen one day

 

[lame plumber]

i take it all back, the welsh should have their own rule after all, tow them over to ireland

 

[Best]

I say oftec need to wise up & stop all this nonsense of days of exam papers - mainly silly stuff & useless practical training.
What everyone needs is a 1 or 2 day max course with no bull & you have to buy the books, all for a reasonable cost, instead of this excuse of a "course" & the increasing costs.

 

[dontknowitall]

I can see OFTEC reading this thread and taking notes.


NOT.

 

[Nostrum]

Oftec (or any other governing body) dont have the power to, the law needs to be changed for it to have any effect. The only way of controlling these activities are through the building control and regulations, which aren't designed to assess individuals capabilities.

Its the same for the electrical industry and my bet is there will be more people who die or are injured from electrical installations than from oil.

All these accreditation bodies are taking your money for allowing you to wear a badge, the only people who are scrutinised are its members, and everyone else is free to do as they please. The only real way of the current system working is for the public to act responsibly and only use tradesman belonging to schemes like oftec. I think a lack of understanding from the customers, along with the temptation of saving a few quid are the main problems that need addressing.

 

[lame plumber]

Oftec (or any other governing body) dont have the power to, the law needs to be changed for it to have any effect. The only way of controlling these activities are through the building control and regulations, which aren't designed to assess individuals capabilities.

Its the same for the electrical industry and my bet is there will be more people who die or are injured from electrical installations than from oil.

All these accreditation bodies are taking your money for allowing you to wear a badge, the only people who are scrutinised are its members, and everyone else is free to do as they please. The only real way of the current system working is for the public to act responsibly and only use tradesman belonging to schemes like oftec. I think a lack of understanding from the customers, along with the temptation of saving a few quid are the main problems that need addressing.

good points there :iagree:

 

[Nostrum]

In France it is the customers responsibility to ensure the tradesman you pay are accredited, failure could result in a hefty fine, maybe not such a bad idea?