How to fill this hole in?

[Jennie]

Hiya all,
I'm taking out an old toilet (the space is going to become a storage room).
I'm planning to take the current cast-iron waste pipe out (either pulling it through, or cutting at both ends).
How best should I fill in the hole in the wall that is left?
Thanks again for all your advice,
Jennie

 

[village idiot]

is that cast iron, or lead?

 

[REDSAW]

hi
thats lead pipe.

just render the hole over with sand and cement mix

 

[Kyle87]

Post the pipe to my address. Ill get rid of it for you

 

[lame plumber]

if you have any more cast iron to throw away do pm me

 

[pipefitter]

Or for the best looking result cut 3 bricks out & replace

 

[Jennie]

Oh wow. I had no idea they made waste pipes out of lead. Will it be softer to cut through?
How about this sand/cement mix? Should I mix it together outside on a flat, largish piece of cardboard?
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Thanks,
Jennie

 

[Robert Tyrrell]

oooo- herrr missus, as the Bishop said to the actress

 

[village idiot]

easy to cut, yes

 

[Koogatubac]

Watch out! It looks like a live cold mains pipe

 

[galaxy_plumbing]

expanding foam and cut flat

 

[cnelsonplumber]

Wear a glove or place a piece of old cardboard against the brick or you will have no skin left on your sawing hand. Sand and cement in the ratio four to one will do the job or small tubs of ready mix are available from local DIY outlets for under a fiver

 

[Robert Tyrrell]

expanding foam and cut flat

I concur.

 

[tamz]

You can cut the lead with a hacksaw a wood saw a knife or just kick it off. It is soft.
You need to learn to be multi skilled in this trade. How you patch the hole depends on what they are willing to pay for, remember your time is money.
Easiest if they are not fussed is stick a bit newspaper in the hole and fill over with a bit mortar.
If they are fussy (which it doesn't look like they are going by the brick that has already been patched in) buy 3 bricks the same, cut out the ones around the hole and rebuild it
You can use the premixed stuff you linked if you wish but personally i buy a bag of sand and a bag of cement. This will cost you about 6 quid and fill in a dozen holes and the sand will run out well before the cement does.
Mix it in a bucket at a ratio of about 4 trowel full of sand to 1 cement. Add a squirt of fairy liquid to the water for mixing as this plasticises the mix making it easier to work with.

 

[tamz]

expanding foam and cut flat

ruffff :smile:

 

[Robert Tyrrell]

ruffff :smile:

Miaawooooo

 

[Robert Tyrrell]

Nothing wrong with expanding foam, if it's done correctly. smooth the surface with a wet blade and it 'should' remain waterproof. I only advocate this method of hole filling for smaller holes and not larger ones - I won't go into the actress/bishop vernacular in this instance but it does seem appropriate.

 

[Irish]

You can cut the lead with a hacksaw a wood saw a knife or just kick it off. It is soft.
You need to learn to be multi skilled in this trade. How you patch the hole depends on what they are willing to pay for, remember your time is money.
Easiest if they are not fussed is stick a bit newspaper in the hole and fill over with a bit mortar.
If they are fussy (which it doesn't look like they are going by the brick that has already been patched in) buy 3 bricks the same, cut out the ones around the hole and rebuild it
You can use the premixed stuff you linked if you wish but personally i buy a bag of sand and a bag of cement. This will cost you about 6 quid and fill in a dozen holes and the sand will run out well before the cement does.
Mix it in a bucket at a ratio of about 4 trowel full of sand to 1 cement. Add a squirt of fairy liquid to the water for mixing as this plasticises the mix making it easier to work with.

As always wise words!!

 

[tamz]

Nothing wrong with expanding foam, if it's done correctly. smooth the surface with a wet blade and it 'should' remain waterproof. I only advocate this method of hole filling for smaller holes and not larger ones - I won't go into the actress/bishop vernacular in this instance but it does seem appropriate.

I am really not a fan of foam for anything except......well nothing relevant to this trade. It just shouts out amateurish job. And if you are only there for an hour or so there is no way you can trim it off neat as it will still be curing and expanding.

 

[P4ULT]

I'd be cutting out the 3 bricks. It will be a much nicer job.

 

[Kyle87]

I'd just use ready mix cement myself. Unless customer really wanted me to brick it back up in which case they'd be paying for me to go and buy some bricks.

If in a rush then sod it........GRIPFILL.......is that a swear word??

 

[Irish]

Tut tut Kyle you should know better than using that kinda word !!

 

[lame plumber]

ask the customer and when they hear of cost implications itll be sand n cement patch 9/10 times

 

[tamz]

If in a rush then sod it........GRIPFILL.......is that a swear word??

FFS have some pride in what you do :38:

 

[Rickster123]

Just don't tap too hard..

 

[Kyle87]

FFS have some pride in what you do :38:

Lol I wouldn't really do that I promise. I keep a small tub of ready mix in the van. Two mins to whip it up. No excuse

 

[Rickster123]

FFS have some pride in what you do :38:

Tamz stop grinding your teeth you're scaring the youth!

 

[tamz]

Tamz stop grinding your teeth you're scaring the youth!

I've cracked my last bottle of green label that i promised i'd save for new year and they have stopped making it so no more.
It will get worse before it gets better:lol:

 

[Best]

Wouldn't use that expanding foam. It's probably tops for window fitters, but filling an hole in outside wall with it will not last forever. The sunlight turns the foam into powder soon enough. Also mice & rats can easily get through it & even have their young in it.

 

[Killy Bing]

Expanding foam is for filling gaps, not patching holes!

sand and cement patch unless they are willing to fork out for your time to match bricks and cut them in

invest in a tub for mixing up plaster,sand and cement. Just keep it clean.
and for putting scrap in.
and rubbish.
and rubble.
and for draining pipes/boilers

the small ones are pretty useful

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[AWheating]

gripfill ay no gud for outside stuff. Ask my brother, he gripfilled his cars side skirts on and sold the car, the guy who brought it got a shock when they fell off while drving it.