Can you sign off an installation done by a non-GSR plumber?

[Whyme]

ye the whole scheme started free many many moons ago. if ya dont like the fee get employed. and if ya dont like the regs fit bathrooms. booosh

 

[Chalked]

Mooney.

I can see your point why you do commision others installs.
But here's where what your doing is wrong!

But you have done the training, pay your registration, do the paperwork, pay insurance and have the knowledge to do your job in the gas industry. You are making the problem of unregistered installers worse, because £60 an install is cheap to get your job signed off. What's the point of being registered??

 

[Chalked]

American spelling,but hey ho!

 

[Riley]

Mooney.

I can see your point why you do commision others installs.
But here's where what your doing is wrong!

But you have done the training, pay your registration, do the paperwork, pay insurance and have the knowledge to do your job in the gas industry. You are making the problem of unregistered installers worse, because £60 an install is cheap to get your job signed off. What's the point of being registered??

I'm hoping it's just a wind up merchant. You'd hope that nobody had that blatant disregard for the rules that they'd be bragging about it.

 

[Dotty]

Getting close to that now. This guy, with his blatant disregard for the rules is beginning to irritate me.

 

[AlexGas]

I d be happy to sign off work that has been done by someone else as long as I could see the whole installation...

You won’t be able to check the whole installation without ripping the gas pipework off the wall!!!

Please tell me this, you have a nice house, pretty wife and pretty kids… Are you saying you let some mug into your house to install a gas boiler and then some other mug to sing it off!? YES or NO?

 

[Dotty]

Kind of academic now Alex. Unfortunately we don't have enough details to report him to GSR to investigate. Neither can we be seen to encourage him, by association or otherwise.

His account, after a very brief discussion in the Mod Cave, has been terminated.

 

[plumben]

I d be happy to sign off work that has been done by someone else as long as I could see the whole installation and it passed all the tests in the mf instruction.A lot of people on here will have apprentice s that will run gas pipe work hang boilers for them pipe them ect there not gas safe registered its no different you trust them to do*it.if*I trust the person fitting it than I have no problem signing itoff.each*to there*own.RPM*I don t have to show my gsr badge to have an opinion on gas or deemed competent.

Well you make a fair point there but theirs a difference, Im Not GSR but ive installed 30-40 boilers working under my old boss, but the difference is, i was taught how to install boilers and gas pipework by a professional and at the same time i was learning it all in college as well, also a trainee can only install gas appliances if there GSR person is standing behind them and checking all of the work they carry out

 

[stevetheplumber]

it's a definite no no. When you service you don't scrutinise every single part of the installation for example is the gas pipe installed to standard where it disappears into the floor. I would assume there is nobody here that will go pulling up floorboards just to check the gas pipe run for example? Why not? Because you have to make a certain degree of assumption that the person who installed it knew what they were doing. If you are signing off someone else's work then you have no confirmation that everything has been installed to standard unless you demolish it and start again in which case what's the point

so when you fit a new boiler you remove all the boards to inspect the existing gas run ?or do you ask for the bench mark for the twenty year old boiler your just about to rip out ? goes back to what i said we all certify other peoples work

 

[Riley]

so when you fit a new boiler you remove all the boards to inspect the existing gas run ?or do you ask for the bench mark for the twenty year old boiler your just about to rip out ? goes back to what i said we all certify other peoples work

If I was doing an install I would because you never know what the previous person has done in terms of pipe sizing. I've seen it where the whole run was in 15mm up to about a meter from the boiler when it was upsized to 22mm then comically back to 15mm to go n the boilers gas fitting