Can you sign off an installation done by a non-GSR plumber?

[joni os]

It is clearly wrong to sign off someone else's installation, but less clear what comprises an installation. Where a gas fitter is GSR but not G3, and plumber is G3 but not GSR a system with gas boiler and unvented cylinder has all the potential for a demarcation dispute not seen since the heydays of Cammell Laird.

 

[Riley]

I d be happy to sign off work that has been done by someone else as long as I could see the whole installation and it passed all the tests in the mf instruction.A lot of people on here will have apprentice s that will run gas pipe work hang boilers for them pipe them ect there not gas safe registered its no different you trust them to do*it.if*I trust the person fitting it than I have no problem signing itoff.each*to there*own.RPM*I don t have to show my gsr badge to have an opinion on gas or deemed competent.

i'm not really having a go but I think that's a very ignorant opinion. And just promotes DIY gaswork Which is something as engineers we should be doing our upmost to stamp out.

 

[IND_Nick]

Then you are a fool.

And yes you do to be deemed competent on this forum.

I cannot begin to believe that you are happy to spend thousands on training and registration to cover the backside of an illegal installer who cannot be bothered.

I hope you get caught.

Couldn't agree more and also why let someone get paid for work that should be completed by trained, registered individuals!

 

[stevetheplumber]

as the name implies gas safe's main aim is safety and by effectivly banning inspections of unregistered installs i feel they are not
scenario 1 lanlord has boiler fitted by joe blogs then moves in a family they ask for gas cert and landlord keeps putting them of but he is tryoing to get it done as he now realises his mistake before he can get it sorted both children in the family die of co poisoning net reusult two dead children landlord in a world of troubles and no one has earnt any money
scenario 2 same as above but some one qualified has checked the boiler thoroughly found fault issued a riddor net result two children alive gas engineer has had a pay day and landlord still in a world of trouble because gas safe/hse are investigating him and hopefully the original fitter
im much happier with the outcome of scenario 2 but it wont happen as gas safe dont follow up unless its handed to them on a plate or some one has died

 

[harrygashull]

Surely the best thing to do would be to make it illegal to service/comission unregistered work and then make it impossible for unregistered folk to get their hands on any gas parts without a GSR card?

 

[stevetheplumber]

Surely the best thing to do would be to make it illegal to service/comission unregistered work and then make it impossible for unregistered folk to get their hands on any gas parts without a GSR card?

weve had this argument before and as ray points out a big part of the heating market is housing associations and other companies that dont need registration as they dont fit the items

 

[mooey]

Then you are a fool.

And yes you do to be deemed competent on this forum.

I cannot begin to believe that you are happy to spend thousands on training and registration to cover the backside of an illegal installer who cannot be bothered.

I hope you get caught.

Sorry its taken a while to get back to you been busy signing boilers off 32 to be exact 60 pound a throw.
Well in eyes of the hsc and the LAW I am deemed competent and like people say on here if I get caught I will face the music.The biggest law breakers are gsr ripping off the tradesmen who pay there wages .all they are are legal con man/woman.maybe I am a fool but a richer one at that.who are the bigger fools anyway giving thousands to gsr so you can go earn a living

 

[joni os]

Got to be a wind up . Most people want £600 to put their name to a moody install.

 

[Ric2013]

Hang on. I've rented out my own house at times and no Corgi (as it was) or Gas Safe installer has ever asked who fitted the boiler.

So I fail to understand how Gas Safe means unregistered appliances are never inspected? Or is there some kind of national register against which all Landlord's Certificates are compared? If so, I can only assume my boiler was fitted by a registered installed because nobody has ever contacted me to say otherwise.

How does the system work?

 

[Unregistered]

Are you on drugs? You're not making any sense at all.

Gsr charge 360 odd pounds plus vat to register for the first time than a futher 150pounds for every year.if you lapse a year they than charge you the initial fee of 360 again. now if that not ripping trademan off what is.they are the legal crooks.when corgi was 1st set up it was free I don t begrudge paying some sort of fee but they are judt a greedy organisations.that are taking advantage of the people that keep them in a job.yes ee all have over heads and they do need to make a profit and they are making a massive one.if I can help someone out and make abit of money in the process I will its what gas safe are doing to us.i would never sign something off if I thought it was unsafe.if its against the law so be it most people break the law everyday one way or another