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I have a potterton promax he, finding that when its on, getting fumes, its not gas smell, i have had a sniff about but cant find where ? what can cause this. i dont know about the boilers history, if its ever been opened, or serviced.
At work we have these huge square heater with heat vents on the top, i would say the smell is similar. With this boiler being sealed,i cant see how fumes can escape.
 
Best official advice is to contact your local emergency gas service/ supplier, in the South it is Southern Gas Networks, 0800111999 will be different if you are elsewhere.

They will come out free of charge in a max time of 2 hours, if in any doubt of the boiler they will make the situation safe.

Please turn off the gas.

Kev.
 
is it new? they smell when new, are the fumes coming back inside from a window?
 
do as already stated call o8oo 111 999 and get someone round to look at it. in the meantime turn it off.
 
Thankfully you can smell Carbon Monoxide, not a lot of people can :sleeping:

Hopefully nothing but best to be safe eh??

Could also be some electrical contacts slowly melting themselves till they set alight ! please get it looked at tonight.
 
When ive fitted these from new ive always noticed a smell. Not easy to describe, maybe like oil or new engine sort of smell, or a burning smell.
 
Kev the gas said:
Thankfully you can smell Carbon Monoxide, not a lot of people can :sleeping:

Hopefully nothing but best to be safe eh??

Could also be some electrical contacts slowly melting themselves till they set alight ! please get it looked at tonight.
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I have bought a carbon monoxide alarm and placed it directly above the boiler.Also just to make 100% sure that the alarm is working as it has not gone off, i put it under the car exhaust, it works.
 
crazydiamond said:
I have bought a carbon monoxide alarm and placed it directly above the boiler.Also just to make 100% sure that the alarm is working as it has not gone off, i put it under the car exhaust, it works.
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How long ago was the boiler installed
 
What about other appliances in your house and neighbours houses. It is better to get it checked out call the esp as told they will be out in 2 hrs usually and have the equipment to test for fumes and gas leaks. 0800111999
 
Carbon monoxide alarms are not designed to alert you of Gas/ Smoke.

If you are happy to sleep tonight without having it checked :rockon:.

I will sleep well tonight.
 
I think people are over re-acting, you cannot smell CO, these boilers smell when new, it could be that

So, for the third and final time; how long ago was the boiler installed?
 
I dont know , how long has been in sorry , i did say i have no known history of it.
I presume a seal has gone somewhere Hence im asking if there could be other possible reasons. ie has something else gone in the boiler, that can cause this , i can afford an engineer to come out and replace seals , but anything else im not so sure.
 
Thanks guys for the advice , i am fully aware of the perils of gas and carbon dioxide.

the reason why im asking is that i had an engineer out to check it over last week, and he did not notice anything,
 
Exactly you cannot smell CO but, with an experienced nose! I think I can smell when a boiler is not working well.

WHY NOT PHONE 0800 111999 TO MAKE SURE !


Until the boiler has been inspected the official action is to turn off and make safe.
 
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i dont believe it is an emergency enough to ring the number, when i can wait for an engineer to come.
All i want to know is what can be the cause of it??
i bought the boiler from ebay , had it fitted , but guy would not gaurantee it as its not a new boiler.I was not here when he did the safty checks , and her in doors did not take much notice, we have not had the heating on , just hot water, but now when we put the heating on , its when the smell comes. cant say if the fumey smell is present when using hot water, but its noticable when the heating is on.
 
Its like the 3 word story !!!! every time a new bit of info comes out FFS !
 
lol i only want to know causes of this not that me and my family can die , the boiler even though, manufactured in 2007 looks clean , still had celephane on front cover. the top of the boiler still very very clean. guy advertised it as brand new ??? it had been used at some point in its life, how long for , i dont know.
i did not buy the thing directly through ebay. i made him an offer to take it off and bought that way. so im shagged for comebacks.

All i want to know is what possibe causes , i have had a look at the boiler , there do not seem to be scredriver marks on the inner casing screws. i dont know if it has ever been opened up.
All i want to know is what can cause fumes, it cant be bad fitting flue, the boiler will not fire up if this was the case.
 
iv noticed a funny smell from the steam when boiler condensing when condensate pipe not connected properly , have you checked that ???
 
crazydiamond said:
it cant be bad fitting flue, the boiler will not fire up if this was the case.
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Yes it could be, and yes it would. You've been given some very good advice by very experienced people who are concerned for the safety and wellbeing of you and your family.

Please stop using the boiler. Ring the gas emergency line, 0800 111 999.

It'll cost you nothing and may save your life.
 
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lol i only want to know causes of this not that me and my family can die , the boiler even though, manufactured in 2007 looks clean , still had celephane on front cover. the top of the boiler still very very clean. guy advertised it as brand new ??? it had been used at some point in its life, how long for , i dont know.
i did not buy the thing directly through ebay. i made him an offer to take it off and bought that way. so im shagged for comebacks.

All i want to know is what possibe causes , i have had a look at the boiler , there do not seem to be scredriver marks on the inner casing screws. i dont know if it has ever been opened up.
All i want to know is what can cause fumes, it cant be bad fitting flue, the boiler will not fire up if this was the case.
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you have no idea what you are doing, please stop and pay an expert to look at it, dont use it until its been checked, youve just got to pay to get it sorted
 
Well thats it ! bought off ebay, told it was new ! but its been used (5 year old) why did other guy want to sell it ?

AND WHY DOES THIS MAN (MORON) NOT WANT TO CALL EMERGENCY NUMBER ?? HAS HE SOMTHING TO HIDE ? DID HE FIT BOILER HIMSELF ? HAS THE INSTALL BEEN REGISTERED ?
 
This is the craziest thread I've ever read.

This guys either a nut job or an Internet troll.
 
fuzzy said:
you have no idea what you are doing, please stop and pay an expert to look at it, dont use it until its been checked, youve just got to pay to get it sorted
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yes i know, i get the hint guys :) thanks.
 
Thank you. We aren't yanking your chain. We just don't want you to be a statistic.
 
As said before ring 0800 111 999. It is free and is no trouble to them. They will be there probably before 10 if you ring now and mention a smell. They treat it as an emergency because it may well be.
It may be nothing at all but best to get it checked.
 
Cant beleive this guy ! all the time he's been on here he could have had is boiler check'd over ! and known that they would wake-up tomorrow !!
 
jtsplumbing said:
Cant beleive this guy ! all the time he's been on here he could have had is boiler check'd over ! and known that they would wake-up tomorrow !!
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Could be that i am able to turn off the boiler, and shut the gas off at the meter..
 
crazydiamond said:
I dont know , how long has been in sorry , i did say i have no known history of it.
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crazydiamond said:
i bought the boiler from ebay, had it fitted but guy would not gaurantee it as its not a new boiler
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crazydiamond said:
the boiler manufactured in 2007
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crazydiamond said:
i am fully aware of the perils of gas and carbon dioxide. i had an engineer out to check it over last week, and he did not notice anything,
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you don't seem to be having much luck with this boiler do you??:disappointed:
http://www.ukplumbersforums.co.uk/c...-potterton-promax-28-he-no-ch.html#post344746

can you not contact the "guy" who fitted it :thinking:,or the "engineer" that checked it last week, surely you now have a working relationship with these engineers, I am sure they will be able to help.
 
crazydiamond said:
lol i only want to know causes of this not that me and my family can die , the boiler even though, manufactured in 2007 looks clean , still had celephane on front cover. the top of the boiler still very very clean. guy advertised it as brand new ??? it had been used at some point in its life, how long for , i dont know.
i did not buy the thing directly through ebay. i made him an offer to take it off and bought that way. so im shagged for comebacks.

All i want to know is what possibe causes , i have had a look at the boiler , there do not seem to be scredriver marks on the inner casing screws. i dont know if it has ever been opened up.
All i want to know is what can cause fumes, it cant be bad fitting flue, the boiler will not fire up if this was the case.
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Pay some body some money to rip a second hand boiler off the wall and fit a new boiler in its place.

Ebay is good for some things but boilers you must be completeley stupid why would you risk peoples lives to save a few quid. Who did you get to fit it any decent installer would have used 2 words first starting with F second with O.

YOU ARE MAD TURN THIS BOILER OFF NOW NOBODY HERE WILL TELL YOU IT IS OK TO HAVE FUMES COMING OUT OF A BOILER.
 
I think we've done this one to death. Can a mod close this thread please, we're border line trolling here.
 
Millsy 82 said:
Pay some body some money to rip a second hand boiler off the wall and fit a new boiler in its place.

Ebay is good for some things but boilers you must be completeley stupid why would you risk peoples lives to save a few quid. Who did you get to fit it any decent installer would have used 2 words first starting with F second with O.

YOU ARE MAD TURN THIS BOILER OFF NOW NOBODY HERE WILL TELL YOU IT IS OK TO HAVE FUMES COMING OUT OF A BOILER.
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Could it be desperation ????? I HAVE HAD A BRAND NEW BOILER FIITED BEFORE (13 YEARS AGO) AN ARISTON MICROGENIS, THAT HAS NOW FAILED.

　
my wife has terminal cancer, she gets very cold, even on a hot summer`s day, she will get goosebumps. in desperation as opposed to getting the ariston fixed and have my eyes ripped out, i searched ebay for what sounded ok.

Yes in an ideal world i would have fitted a brand new boiler,but unfortanatly, i dont have a money printing machine or money trees in my garden, to fit a brand new replacement.

I CAME HERE ASKING FOR POSSIBLE CAUSES, ON MY OWN INVESTIGATION , I THINK ITS THE GAS VALVE, OBVIOUSLY I HAD MY SUSPICIONS ABOUT WHY SOMEONE WOULD BUY A BOILER, BUT THEN GO TO FIX THEIR OWN , AND SELL ON EBAY.

so please before you judge people , understand that we are human we all make mistakes, and like i said, was desperation.

On the plus side , when i get this fixed, I have a better boiler than the crappy ariston, that kept loosing pressure, had water coming from the blow off pipe, unable to fill the thing as the fill valve knob blew out when i was filling it,had a new diverter valve replaced, in the past , that started to go again.
 
There's no excuse for illegal work.

There's no excuse for potentially putting your lives in danger.

None at all.

Did you ring the FREE emergency gas line? 0800 111 999?
 
Your coming on a site with hundreds of legal gas engineers - asking for advice on gas fumes - we give you advice - and your not taking it.

A wife who is not well? Even more reason to not mess about.

If its smelling - then you need an analyser to check co levels in room. Simple as that. Your not qualified or have the equipment to do so.... If you call the emergency line they are going to check the installation so your knackered either way.

Bite the bullet and be safe.
 
the op has had the best advice possible if he decides not to follow it for whatever reason, that's up to him.

this thread is now closed.
 
had a pm with further developments. will wait and see if he posts, otherwise i will post outcome.
 
I guess that you have a powerful exhaust fan and the fan is pulling air down your chimney and this is combining with an area of high pressure which is stopping the fumes from the boiler getting away and they are hanging round the roof, can you smell them outside?
Have you noticed that the problem goes away when you have a windy period?
The opposite may be true, you have a strong wind blowing that is causing an area of low pressure downwind of your home and the air is being sucked out of holes and cracks or an open window or door and this is pulling the air down the chimney.
 
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