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[newcastle phill]

Ive arrested a few so I don't need a lecture regarding law and standards.
I have massive respect for soldiers. My in law lost both legs and part of his hand by an ied 2 or so years ago and is lucky now to be alive. aiming for the paralympics sailing team. (Steven palmer - reme)

I joined the police with 3, years ago.
2 were sound and 1 an unhinged idiot who was discharged after 5 month. A total unhinged idiot.

Many crimes commited in the military/by the military can be tried either way. There are no hard and fast rules on that and where needed they refer to CPS.
Naturally they need to be strict because of the type and nature of some candidates.
Is itnthe tails that wags the dog in that regard. I.e - they need these strict rules because of the average candidate
Not to stereo type but your average enterant wasnt cut out to be a doctor or solicitor or decision maker.
But your assumption that military or ex military are in someway more honest because of the position is a notion bordering on incredulous.

Ex forces in custody has never been higher accoring to official figures
How honest were they ?

 

[WaterTight]

once people become personally offended and start writing defensively all content gets lost among the posturing.

 

[hammers4spanner]

get loads of military round here and everyone i know just rolls their eyes when its mentioned

 

[cr0ft]

Shall we just agree to disagree Phil and shake hands on the matter? I'm sure neither of us wants to spoil the forum further with our personal disagreements.

I'm also sure that both of us have better things to do with our time than bicker between ourselves about this.

 

[newcastle phill]

Im saddened you see it as bickering, merely challenging your comments re honesty and you view of honesty & ex armed forces and that in some way you are more honest.
I dont think others probably see it as bickering either, just a polite clash of view points, where others are free to contribute or avoid the thread...

TBH it Was an interesting conversation and a break from the norm, even if you disagree.

 

[lame plumber]

regarding ex forces sitting in her majesty's hostels, one needs to consider what they have been doing in order to find themselves in the joint. I dont have the stats that Ray loves to use, but I have been reading about the inability of those with ptsd to cope with life outside the forces leading to a fall from grace. Prehaps we could consider that before commenting on honesty etc on this forum.

 

[newcastle phill]

So as you have stated you cant back that up regarding PTSD.
There arent figures for that. So how do you qualify that?

 

[lame plumber]

So as you have stated you cant back that up regarding PTSD.
There arent figures for that. So how do you qualify that?

that was my round about way of saying time to shut up

 

[newcastle phill]

Very intellectual
You dont like the thread? ? - no bodies asking you to look. There has been no nasty Ness before your last post

 

[Rickster123]

Calm down chaps please and refrain from bad language.