Soldering copper tails in modern houses.

[AWheating]

this is one of the reason's why i refused to install feed and vent pipework in plastic at my old firm, many did tho.

 

[Dannypipe]

Yeah, feed and vent in plastic is just a horrible idea. I'd refuse too.

It has its place though.

Best may be proud that he never uses it, but either way he's going to encounter it. Plastic is everywhere.

 

[Best]

Yeah, feed and vent in plastic is just a horrible idea. I'd refuse too.

It has its place though.

Best may be proud that he never uses it, but either way he's going to encounter it.
Plastic is everywhere.

I know! It's making my life miserable! Lol! :smile:
At least I can guarantee heat won't affect my copper pipes!

 

[MickBrown]

I will be moving a cloakroom sink in a brand new house, it is wall hung and the tails are quite short. I would assume that the main pipes are in plastic and as watertight says I would not know how far away the tails join the plastic. Compression fittings would look a bit ugly so I may cut out a section of plasterboard to see and then reroute the pipework behind the plasterboard and replace the section, look a lot better.

 

[Guest123]

Use Cuprofit, copper push fit fiitings. They look similar to Yorkshire soldered fittings, are the same size and look neat when installed. Available from Screw Fix and they are my favourite push fit system, although I will always prefer solder.

 

[johnnyplumb]

Even if you were, say 300mm away, if you heated the fitting/pipe for a bit too long, the heat would transfer far & be severe. Plastic pipes would need well clear. Glad I don't use them. :smile:

the problem with not using plastic is that on some jobs it will take you twice as long & might even cost you twice as much, you will probably lose some jobs because your too expensive . i dont have a problem with plastic for certain situations.

 

[Best]

the problem with not using plastic is that on some jobs it will take you twice as long & might even cost you twice as much, you will probably lose some jobs because your too expensive . i dont have a problem with plastic for certain situations.

Not going to go into copper/plastic pipe + & - points, except to agree that copper pipe is often the harder thing to use. Can't see though why a plumber will do a easy job using push fit, when soldered or compression using copper will be also quick. That is the trouble with anything that saves, even a little time, tradesmen will use it everywhere. On a house recently, that was getting a complete new gas system & plumbing, the customer was told by his engineer that it had to be plastic pipes as copper could not be fitted upstairs. He was stunned when I informed him that I had already fitted the main pipes in copper for him!
Better to give the potential customer the option of copper or plastic, & let them decide if they want to pay extra. But I know a lot of prices out there for plastic jobs are actually dearer than what a copper install would be!

 

[johnnyplumb]

Not going to go into copper/plastic pipe + & - points, except to agree that copper pipe is often the harder thing to use. Can't see though why a plumber will do a easy job using push fit, when soldered or compression using copper will be also quick. That is the trouble with anything that saves, even a little time, tradesmen will use it everywhere. On a house recently, that was getting a complete new gas system & plumbing, the customer was told by his engineer that it had to be plastic pipes as copper could not be fitted upstairs. He was stunned when I informed him that I had already fitted the main pipes in copper for him!
Better to give the potential customer the option of copper or plastic, & let them decide if they want to pay extra. But I know a lot of prices out there for plastic jobs are actually dearer than what a copper install would be!

your right about it's better to give the customer the option, i was only bring it up cause you said you dont use plastic, i reckon you would be putting yourself at a disadvantage by doing so. copper is usually the best way but plastic has it's uses. What about them 1.5m flexi's for under a bath, there even better than plastic lol