Average week on the cards?

[Rickster123]

Evening all, just wondered what you believe to be a fair weeks work for a guy on the cards booking 40 hours a week. I ask because I feel the blokes are being pushed to much at the moment. The work is boiler swaps and or 6 rad combi systems. What should be expected over 5 days?

 

[hammers4spanner]

i would want to be earning £700 per week but i have not worked on the cards for a long time

i would also expect van/fuel/all the gas toys as well

 

[IDCHAPPY]

i would want to be earning £700 per week but i have not worked on the cards for a long time

i would also expect van/fuel/all the gas toys as well

I think he's talking work wise, not wedge wise

A boiler change a day is a fair days graft if it's a straight swap or 2/3 days for a 5/6 rad install.

 

[hammers4spanner]

still depends what the pay is pay crap then get slow production

i would question why oh why would anyone do boiler changes on the cards???

 

[PlumbersMate]

Gotta be 2 day installs on cards IMO

 

[Leo21]

Boiler swap, one bloke one day. Upgrade, bbu out and tanks etc, one bloke two days. Full system two blokes, two days.
The harder they're pushed the rougher the work will be.

 

[Killy Bing]

I might add, the longer they are pushed, the less they will care...

 

[Rickster123]

Boiler swap, one bloke one day. Upgrade, bbu out and tanks etc, one bloke two days. Full system two blokes, two days.
The harder they're pushed the rougher the work will be.

And that's the problem. Jobs are starting to look rushed because the guys are being rushed. One guys been given two full heating systems this week. 6 rads and 8 rads. It's too much. A year back it was a system and a boiler in 5 days. Then it went to a system and 2 boilers. And now this.

 

[Killy Bing]

And that's the problem. Jobs are starting to look rushed because the guys are being rushed. One guys been given two full heating systems this week. 6 rads and 8 rads. It's too much. A year back it was a system and a boiler in 5 days. Then it went to a system and 2 boilers. And now this.

.......from the outside, when companies do this they are either becoming extremely greedy or.........

update your cv adam!

 

[Leo21]

And that's the problem. Jobs are starting to look rushed because the guys are being rushed. One guys been given two full heating systems this week. 6 rads and 8 rads. It's too much. A year back it was a system and a boiler in 5 days. Then it went to a system and 2 boilers. And now this.

Many moons ago, I was doing two six rad systems a week in flats. I was in my late twenties and it nearly killed me. It's just to much! And there was no lift, the flats were three storeys.

 

[Millsy 82]

I came off installs years ago as for what they were paying they expect far too much. Combi swap rad valves in a day. I could do it but for £450 a week before tax not a chance pay me a grand I'll do it with out moaning. Full system was 2 days flat or bungalow 2.5 days average 3 bed house. Those I really struggled with.

 

[Rickster123]

.......from the outside, when companies do this they are either becoming extremely greedy or.........

update your cv adam!

When you've got a face as trustworthy as mine you don't need a cv!

 

[Leo21]

Looks like you got of the tools at the right time Adam!

 

[Rickster123]

Many moons ago, I was doing two six rad systems a week in flats. I was in my late twenties and it nearly killed me. It's just to much! And there was no lift, the flats were three storeys.

But was that price work? These guys are on 30k basic. And overtime is non existent.

 

[Rickster123]

Looks like you got of the tools at the right time Adam!

Hardly. Guys are going mental at me as if it's my fault! Never ending grief!

 

[Leo21]

Hardly. Guys are going mental at me as if it's my fault! Never ending grief!

But getting grief is better than working for a living surely?

 

[Rickster123]

But getting grief is better than working for a living surely?

No mate its poo. Boring. Tedious. I still do installs half the week. Met up with an old mate today and might go back house bashing on price instead.

 

[Leo21]

But was that price work? These guys are on 30k basic. And overtime is non existent.

We worked on ten pound an hour, but were allowed to book thirteen hour days if we got things done. it was cracking money at the time. I'm sure it's why I'm fluxed know though!

 

[Leo21]

No mate its poo. Boring. Tedious. I still do installs half the week. Met up with an old mate today and might go back house bashing on price instead.

Why don't you go self employed? You can be miserable like the rest of us then.

 

[Rickster123]

Why don't you go self employed? You can be miserable like the rest of us then.

Ive enjoyed my paid holidays and fuel card!

 

[Killy Bing]

Why don't you go self employed? You can be miserable like the rest of us then.

shut up, he will keep the van instead then.....
he cant fit all his tools in the smart car...

 

[Nostrum]

What sort of work is it AP? Contract or private?

Is that 2 full packs a week on their own?

 

[Rickster123]

shut up, he will keep the van instead then.....
he cant fit all his tools in the smart car...

You never seen a smart car with roof ladders on top before?!

 

[Rickster123]

What sort of work is it AP? Contract or private?

Is that 2 full packs a week on their own?

Its housing association. Two full packs one guy on his own.

 

[Nostrum]

They could kiss my ringo if that was expected on the cards.

I know times are tough and especially with H.A work the contract rates are so tight it's almost impossible earning money off them without piling in the extras but that is hard graft for anyone no matter how skilled. Verging on dangerous rushing around shifting furniture, power tools, tenants falling down floor boards, ladder work etc

 

[hammers4spanner]

AP thought you were looking at leaving anyhows??

 

[Rickster123]

AP thought you were looking at leaving anyhows??

I still am. Trouble is it could be a great company. But some of the decisions mate by those on high are ruining it rapidly.

 

[Nostrum]

Hammers, do you know of the company local to us who's strap line was 'done in a day or you don't pay' ?

 

[hammers4spanner]

yep 'not the cheapest but one of the neatest '

haha i known them for years

 

[hammers4spanner]

Hammers, do you know of the company local to us who's strap line was 'done in a day or you don't pay' ?

have worked opposite from his mob on few heating contracts was like wacky plumbing see who could do the most packs , we were doing two packs a day cant do that now tho to many nobbers in the game ruining it.plus dont think i would want to

 

[northcarr]

We worked on ten pound an hour, but were allowed to book thirteen hour days if we got things done. it was cracking money at the time. I'm sure it's why I'm fluxed know though!

Lol 10ph is what company's are paying now around me and expecting 10 services a day that's why I'm self employed.

 

[Ch4 plumbing]

Lol 10ph is what company's are paying now around me and expecting 10 services a day that's why I'm self employed.

Bloomin heck that's a low wage......and as for 10 services a day, hope theirs no Bunin there.

 

[Ch4 plumbing]

Bunin is supposed to say Back boilers duh

 

[jtsplumbing]

Glad I don't have to do it, did it years back when you could earn good money, you were treated well and appreciated for what you did, did get my state pension papers today, not long now, then no more S--t to put up with.

 

[JAH HEATING]

Lads I know, cards in are getting paid 90 a boiler swap.

id rather work in Tescos