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Hi all, I Stripped the gland nut on stopcock like an idiot. I did not pack the gland properly and kept tightening the nut to stop the drip, by doing this i destroyed the nut.

Do i have to freeze the pipe in order to replace the stopcock or is there a way of removing the gland nut?

At least there's no water exploding out of the pipe!

thanks :)
 
Not sure if **** counts as a name but can you turn the water off outside then replace it?
 
I presume you mean the incoming stoptap ,if so you should have a external stoptap that you can hopefully turn off and replace the inside one
 
Hi all, Its a council estate so i can't turn off the mains. Would the only option be freezing the copper pipe?

also thanks for the fast replys :)
 
I looked for where the pipe came from and theres no stopcock. It just goes through the building and branches off to each kitchen/flat.
 
Hi, I wasnt trying to be rude. I will change it later. Didn't think really
 
How will the water be turned off in an emergency

Call the water undertaker & ask them come & turn it off. Then when they arrive watch where it is. Simple
 
So there will definalty be a mains stopcock somewhere in the flat? I can only find the sink kitchen, bathroom sink/bath and toilet system stopcock
 
rocketmanbkk said:
How will the water be turned off in an emergency

Call the water undertaker & ask them come & turn it off. Then when they arrive watch where it is. Simple
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Unless they use a long whatdoyoucallit and take it away with them, then yer stuffed!
 
**** said:
So there will definalty be a mains stopcock somewhere in the flat? I can only find the sink kitchen, bathroom sink/bath and toilet system stopcock
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It won't be in the flat maybe in the street or maybe in a cupboard in a communal hallway
 
Phil said:
How quick can you snatch? Is it easy to get to? do you have a wet vac?
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Reckon croppie should put you on the naughty step for suggesting that to an apprentice! lol
 
If there was mains water filling your kitchen you wouldn't be joking!!

You'd be crapping yourself
 
That would be horrible. Plus i dropped my tablet in a bucket of water today so i don't think i would be doing that.

Last question. Would freezing the pipe be my last option?

thanks for all the replays. Its good to know people are around to help.
 
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I will if you guys and girls don't think it will work
 
you can try but you need at-least 4 inches below the stop tap and then put the freezing collar incase you need to cut the olive off to get the nut off (old thread)
 
The water undertaker has to (?) provide a stopcock at the end of their pipe where it meets the property's supply pipe. This is usually just inside the boundary, just outside the boundary, or in the case of my house, two doors down in the road itself! They will come and find it for you. If, as happened to me once, you turn it off and then it won't go back on again, they will dig up the pavement and replace it as well. I'm not sure if older flats all have individual external stopcocks or not though...
If you're on a shared supply, ****, you can't isolate your supply without ****ing off the neighbours so you don't have the option of shutting off at the outside stopcock and then spending all day fiddling with your own one.
It may be easier to take the head off a new stopcock and fit the new head to the old body, but be aware it may be a **** to undo without damage, ****.
 
Ric2013 said:
The water undertaker has to (?) provide a stopcock at the end of their pipe where it meets the property's supply pipe. This is usually just inside the boundary, just outside the boundary, or in the case of my house, two doors down in the road itself! They will come and find it for you. If, as happened to me once, you turn it off and then it won't go back on again, they will dig up the pavement and replace it as well. I'm not sure if older flats all have individual external stopcocks or not though...
If you're on a shared supply, ****, you can't isolate your supply without ****ing off the neighbours so you don't have the option of shutting off at the outside stopcock and then spending all day fiddling with your own one.
It may be easier to take the head off a new stopcock and fit the new head to the old body, but be aware it may be a **** to undo without damage, ****.
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maybe not depending on age, have had a set of 10 flats and 2 houses off one main and no stop tap outside, only the ones inside each property
 
If
a. Its only the gland nut you've wrecked. AND
b. The screw thread inside the tap body into which the gland nut screws is OK AND
c. The handle of the tap can be removed.

THEN you could:

1. Turn the stop tap off.
2. Remove the gland nut.
3. Take it to a plumber's merchant and see if you can get a new stop tap with an identical gland nut.
4. Remove gland nut from new tap and install on old.
 
Live connections at mains pressure usually means the water comes over your wellies before the fitting can be tightened.
 
Hi steadyon, thanks a lot for the detailed post. I will do exactly what you said.

cheers

Thanks to everyone else who commented
 
Hi joni os, I have a mate who's a plumber and he wouldn't touch it either.
 
**** said:
Hi joni os, I have a mate who's a plumber and he wouldn't touch it either.
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Pah! Where's his sense of adventure?! First time is really scary but if you're well-prepared and can keep a cool head it's not that bad at all.
 
I was working in flats back in January, in the airing cupboard was the internal soil stack running up the back corner and behind it (unknown to me) was the communal black alkathene water main.

I drilled through the bathroom wall into the top corner of the airing cupboard and caught the pipe with my drill bit. WOOSH!!! I didn't know what hit me...it was like a high pressure fountain.
I managed to cap that off live with only the items I had around me...I was totally soaked through to my skin.

If I can get through that you can snatch a simple 15mm under a controlled situation.
 
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I always get a sense of thrill doing stuff live. Must be an adrenaline junkie. If your not experienced don't try doing it live, your house insurance won't pay out.
 
@ Phil , ok you got me interested...you put jubilee clip on further up the black main then pulled down over the drilled hole?
 
For those who have never replaced a stopcock I list the following considerations:-
Once the fitting has been removed, nut and olive will remain on incoming pipe. If pipe is 15mm diameter there is high chance, (but no certainty), that nut and olive will suit new fitting.
If size of incoming pipe is other than 15mm, nut, both size or thread may not be compatible with new fitting. This means olive will have to be removed and replaced with new nut and olive.
If incoming pipe is plastic, insert will also have to be replaced.
Even when plastic pipe is cut with proper tool, pushing olive on pipe is often difficult. If pipe cut with saw, frayed edge needs removal before olive will fit.
Should plastic pipe be other than blue MDPE, finding a compatible fitting may prove difficult.
For those who have no alternative than to replace fitting on live main. Leave fitting open and direct flow, via hose, to suitable waste outlet. Finally, GOOD LUCK!
 
dean.diy said:
@ Phil , ok you got me interested...you put jubilee clip on further up the black main then pulled down over the drilled hole?
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No, this was high up..just reachable leaning over the cylinder on a stepladder, I couldn't see the pipe or what I'd done to it, all I knew was the flat was flooding, I could feel a plastic type pipe so I reached for my shears and chomped my way through it and kinked the end over, I was able then to hold it kinked with duct tape while I turned the water off outside.
 
Hi all, Problem solved! I used a lot of Self-Amalgamating Rubber Tape Black 19mm x 10m. It was actually still leaking after using 5 metres. It only stopped leaking when i got HACKEDed off and tryed to turn off the stopcock with the tape still on. It must of threaded itself into bottom of the handle or something. Not one single drop. Just got to wait for the council to turn off the mains to replace. Happy days.

Thanks
 
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**** said:
Hi, Is that a joke? If so i am a little slow :S
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An "Aladdin" valve is a valve that you can cut into live pipework. [video=youtube;Cl0ZGqhI9ro]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cl0ZGqhI9ro[/video]
 
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