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I prefer using end feed type copper fittings and I have had a good success rate.

However, I usually get an ugly drip of solder. Could anyone advise how I could avoid that and make a really neat job?. I know I am being a bit OCD about this, but that's just me!

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tuttogallo
 
I have to admit, that I had been soldering about 15 years or so before I learned how to do it properly. I also have to thank South West Water for a small booklet they produced because the quality of soldering was considered by them as poor throughout the plumbing industry region.

You will need a wet cloth and a dry cloth.

1. Clean both copper pipe and fittings with dry non-metalic cloth
2. Apply flux sparingly to male surfaces of pipe only and do not apply flux to fitting (this is especially important for gas, because excess is pushed out externally).

3. Locate pipework into fitting, twist and remove any excess flux from the fittings with a dry cloth (externally).

4. Prepare to solder, with lead free solder in one hand, and blow lamp in other - apply heat until the fitting starts to sweat. Apply solder to back or rear of fitting (if vertical) and observe as the solder runs around to the front - immediately remove solder and heat.
5. Allow to cool, and remove residual flux with wet cloth. Polish with non-metalic cloth to shiny finish.

Remember the purpose of flux is to clean and allow the solder to run, so if you do not remove excess flux with a dry cloth before soldering, then vertical soldering is difficult because the solder runs out of the fitting and down the pipe following the flow of flux.

Follow the dry and wet cloth routine and you will have perfect joints, less risk of leaks, more money and you have conserved rare and precious metals. Not only that, you work will be beautiful and fill you with a sense of pride that money just can't buy - welcome to your vocation!

Read more: http://www.ukplumbersforums.co.uk/plumbing-forum/39491-neat-soldering-how.html#ixzz2Cxv7Mrqq
 
Thank you Clanger for a most complete reply. I shall certainly be doing that.

I noticed a couple of things:
- no mention of wire woool. That's good. I hate the stuff!
- I will check to see if the solder that I am using is lead free

I assume that when people talk about the joint "sweating", they mean the melting of the flux.

When I suceed with this, I will check that my spirits have been suitably uplifted! I will be very proud!

Thanks again

tuttogallo
 
Tin the copper pipe! That's the right way all sizes you will never go wrong.
 
I repeat tin the copper pipe and you will never have a leak, what ever the size. If you are in a hurry then dont it will probably be ok.
 
Hi nicro3

I undertand the concept. Please could you explain how I would do this practically?

I can see myself getting a very ragged and uneven spread of the solder on the end of the pipe and then not be able to assemble the join!

thanks

tuttogallo
 
I repeat tin the copper pipe and you will never have a leak, what ever the size. If you are in a hurry then dont it will probably be ok.

Any plumber who wants to make a good living hasn't got time to dilly around pre-tinning their joints! I aim for efficiency and detest ugly snot joints. I do exactly as Clanger suggests in a previous post. It's quick, neat and enables me to blow twice as many joints as you per hour
 
To tin a pipe, just clean & flux it, then heat it & dab solder wire till it starts melting & then start wiping it on with a rag & wipe excess off. There shouldn't be any lumps if you wipe it fully.
 
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