Discuss Combi Comparison - any real life experiences? in the Central Heating Forum area at PlumbersForums.net

???????????????????.

You did mention shower temperatures

Who's Obfuscating?

( I did have to look that one up )

No hard feelings.
I just read what you wrote and replied to what you wrote.
Come on he has loads of letters after his name he obviously knows more than us leave him to it.
 
If anyone wants to know, I have a Rinnai 26 at my place and we can comfortably run 2 showers at once.
Unit is factory set to deliver water at 50C - so no tempering valve required.
( there is an function to increase the water temp by a few degrees - 4C from memory)
I've had the unit for almost 20 years - so I am a fan of them

The problem with 'Hometech's' recommendation to put a unit for each bathroom, is not necessary.
What is necessary is to have the ability to determine what the hot water requirements are for the home and what pipe sizes are required to deliver that hot water.

What 'Hometech' may not understand, is the gas supply requirements.

3 bathrooms - 3 x 26 continuous flow units = 600mJ/h
Gas boiler (24 kW boiler) = 100mJ/h
Gas cooktop = 40mJ/H
Gas log fire = 40mJ/h

Total = 780mJ/h

- Size the gas pipe with that load with an index run of ( say ) 30m

- Size the same gas pipe with a load of 380mj/h ( less 2 HWU's )

Take the cost saving for the labour, equipment & materials into consideration.
There are substantial savings there to allow for a secondary returns system if required.
(House isn't that big - eg. 24 kw boiler

Hope now Hometech understands where I am coming from.
 
Thermally, your unit will supply water at 26 LPM with a 20C rise which = 36.28 kw, so to get water at this temperature requires mains at 30C?? if i am interpreting what the brochure is saying. Also the fuel input is 55kw (199mj/hr) so efficiency a pretty low 66%.
If one uses a average mains temp of 10C then that unit will deliver 13LPM at 50C. or with a showering temperature of 40C, 17.3LPM or just over 8.5LPM to each shower, so unless there are restrictors fitted to reduce the flow to 8.5LPM it just won't work, even using one shower then its still 8.5LPM except you install/remove the restrictors constantly for 1 or 2 shower operation. (8.5LPM would be perfectly acceptable to me)

A 36kw combi will deliver exactly the same flowrates (more efficiently) so except that one doesn't like the complexity of a combi or is heating the house by other means then I can't see any benefit.
 

Reply to Combi Comparison - any real life experiences? in the Central Heating Forum area at PlumbersForums.net

Similar plumbing topics

Hello, We got a Vaillant Ecotec Exclusive Green IQ 835 combi boiler in November 2021 as we wanted the most efficient boiler that modulated really...
Replies
4
Views
2K
    • Like
Hi everyone, Just wanted to share my experience with "upgrading" an S plan setup to Opentherm and Vaillant Control Center (VR66). There are a few...
Replies
1
Views
1K
Hi, I am a homeowner but caught between a rock & a hard place. I am trying to get a Vaillant ecoTEC 630 plus serviced but the gas safe engineer &...
Replies
8
Views
1K
  • Question
Evening Hopefully you're not sick of this type of question! I've had a few quotes for a boiler upgrade (going from a regular boiler (~15 yrs...
Replies
11
Views
7K
Deleted member 131795
D
This is a weird one, for sure... I had an old Vaillant combi replaced by a new Worcester Greenstar 4000 by Boxt. It was as simple a job as you...
Replies
14
Views
1K
Back
Top
AdBlock Detected

We get it, advertisements are annoying!

Sure, ad-blocking software does a great job at blocking ads, but it also blocks useful features of our website. For the best site experience please disable your AdBlocker.

I've Disabled AdBlock