Oldham College Level 3 Part Time

[Dazh09]

Or because people are starting to finally realise that the 6035 is not recognised in industry & will not get you a job as a plumber.

How you can do a Level 3 course without having any site experience is beyond me.

Sorry Jules, do not want to see any one loosing hours / job but come on how can someone who has never work as a plumber study to Level 3 & truly understand what is going on ???

Hi Chris,
As this seems to be the only route into plumbing for a career changer over the apprentice age other than one of those ripoff fast track training courses, could you advise on how I should be looking to progress from here?

Bear in mind that I'm not particularly looking for a job as I have one of those already and it pays well, I aim to become self employed as it's more about working for myself in a trade that I've always had an interest in rather than the money

 

[chris watkins]

Hi Chris,
As this seems to be the only route into plumbing for a career changer over the apprentice age other than one of those ripoff fast track training courses, could you advise on how I should be looking to progress from here?

Bear in mind that I'm not particularly looking for a job as I have one of those already and it pays well, I aim to become self employed as it's more about working for myself in a trade that I've always had an interest in rather than the money

I don't know Dazh09, what had you planed to do? you must have though about it, then done some research & investigation before starting the 6035 course. If you don't mind me asking what are you paying for it ?

 

[Dazh09]

I had planned on doing the level 2 then doing the BPEC Gas foundation and ACS, I have an uncle who is a gas engineer so can do the onsite with him.
But then I realised I don't want to be a gas engineer, I want to be a gas safe plumber, therefore now I am thinking after I complete the level 2 I should do the level 3 as this covers plumbing in more depth and incorporates gas.
not sure if water regs are included or not, if not the college does it as a seperate course that only takes 1 day, will also do the part p course which takes either 1 day or 1 week.

The level 2 fee is £1,125

 

[newcastle phill]

Hi chap, if you read past threads on here, you'll see you do not need level 2 to go on and do level 3.
It is at the "colleges discretion" whether or not you can do level 3 off the bat.
Would assume that means: level of experience and the cut of your jib, too...perhaps

I think thats mis informed
If you want to eventually be gas safe and havent the 2 you can forget it.

 

[chris watkins]

Bear in mind that I'm not particularly looking for a job as I have one of those already and it pays well, I aim to become self employed as it's more about working for myself in a trade that I've always had an interest in rather than the money

So let me get this straight, you have just spent 1.125K & your not sure precisely what or how you are going to achieve your aims.

You say you want to become a self employed plumber but you do not want to leave your nicely paid, existing job to learn it.

So what do you think is going to happen then? cos you sure as hell aren't going to learn it all in a college. What do you think, you are going to make all those mistakes in people houses and they are going to pay you while you learn by them.
Get real mate !! stop belittling me and the plumbing trade by treating us like some hobby.

I have & will help anyone who is serious but will not be waisting my time. Good Luck

 

[Dazh09]

Firstly, I never said that I do not want to leave my job to learn plumbing, I said that I have a job but aim to be self employed.

Secondly, I have a vague idea of how I can achieve where I want to be, and the level 2 6035 is the start of the road for which ever path I take.
If I can find employment in the industry while learning at college then great as I will gain a lot of experience, but if not I will continue to do the courses and go it alone as others have before me and seem to do really well.
I already said that I have an uncle who is a gas engineer who I can work along side and will gain much knowledge on the gas side from.

Thirdly, I can assure you that I am most definitely not treating this as some sort of hobby, this is a massive change for me and having a family to support I will be doing my damnedest to make it work.

I'm not some kid fresh out of secondary school who thinks I'm just going to go to college and muck about, so don't insult my intelligence by claiming that people like myself can't go through college and go on to be successful because I personally know people that have done it.

 

[Jules]

Firstly, I never said that I do not want to leave my job to learn plumbing, I said that I have a job but aim to be self employed.

Secondly, I have a vague idea of how I can achieve where I want to be, and the level 2 6035 is the start of the road for which ever path I take.
If I can find employment in the industry while learning at college then great as I will gain a lot of experience, but if not I will continue to do the courses and go it alone as others have before me and seem to do really well.
I already said that I have an uncle who is a gas engineer who I can work along side and will gain much knowledge on the gas side from.

Thirdly, I can assure you that I am most definitely not treating this as some sort of hobby, this is a massive change for me and having a family to support I will be doing my damnedest to make it work.

I'm not some kid fresh out of secondary school who thinks I'm just going to go to college and muck about, so don't insult my intelligence by claiming that people like myself can't go through college and go on to be successful because I personally know people that have done it.

Hi there, I couldn't have put it better myself.
Have sent you an email, hope to see you at college!
Julie

 

[Jules]

So let me get this straight, you have just spent 1.125K & your not sure precisely what or how you are going to achieve your aims.

You say you want to become a self employed plumber but you do not want to leave your nicely paid, existing job to learn it.

So what do you think is going to happen then? cos you sure as hell aren't going to learn it all in a college. What do you think, you are going to make all those mistakes in people houses and they are going to pay you while you learn by them.
Get real mate !! stop belittling me and the plumbing trade by treating us like some hobby.

I have & will help anyone who is serious but will not be waisting my time. Good Luck

I guess the Anger Management course was no good then?

 

[chris watkins]

Angry, no just sad, just another one to add to the thousands who thought they could learn plumbing at a training centre & then get a job on the back of it.

and sad that our once proud FE colleges have to offer these courses for the revenue that they bring in, so that they can pay 15-18K for that experienced trades person to pass on all that knowledge,

but hey Jules what would you know about all that !!!!

 

[pip]

Hi, what would you recommend the best route is then?