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installed boiler 7 days ago he is refusing to pay for boiler and work done what do i do thanks
 
perhaps provide a liiiiiiiiiiitle bit more info on the circumstances. i.e. if he won't pay because the boiler is upside down or if he won't pay because he is dr evil.
 
did he agree to the works beforehand? or did he give a general do what needs doing sort of thing.
 
This could be tricky one. Did you get him to waive his 7 day cooling off period? Nowadays we have to provide a written contract, otherwise they can legally challenge you and refuse to pay. Personally I would turn up at his home/place of work and confront him as to why he refuses to pay.
 
well, did you do anything wrong?, did you give him a written quote and get him to sign it?, have you got any proof?, do you know the reason for him not paying?
 
There are people i.e debt collectors on uk business forum whom might be able to help you bud.
 
perhaps provide a liiiiiiiiiiitle bit more info on the circumstances. i.e. if he won't pay because the boiler is upside down or if he won't pay because he is dr evil.

Yes i agree, more info required. You must of asked him why he wont pay you. What was his reply ?
 
cement in the mains stopcock then a few mates round to his generally works while your other mates are ripping the orignal install out
 
couple of hawfers through the windae and yer laughin lol

translate that into english means couple of half bricks through the window

but seriously, this isnt happened to me yet but seems to happen alot to the person i'm subbing for, i have something in place to send a letter from a debt collectors agency and if they then refuse that i can get them in to get the money but then it starts costing money and legal fees and would need to make sure your going to win
 
knownd fitted it n him a while he is a landlord the house is tenanted old boiler was broke he was at house when i gave him price to do work fool to my self i got boiler and fitted it he said he would be over next day to pay when he did nor arrive i phoned him he did not answer and when he did he said he carnt pay he as gone bust then later on he says is car broke and he needs to pay for that and then he says he could have got boiler cheaper and after that he says is buisness partner as spent all money can i enter this house and get my boiler back thanks
 
can i go into this tenanted house and get boiler back i am a sole trader carnt afford to lose money i dont want to go in they have young kids but how do i go about sorting this
 
ooo cool , i used to cover that are where , spill name and shame. edlington ?
 
If it's fitted, no you can't as that's classed as criminal damage.
 
i know what i would do, materials are my property until payed for in full, i would go in start dismantling by that time tennant will be on phone to landlord kicking up a fuss and just stand your ground
 
orignally thurnska as its said then upto goalie (goldthorpe) now out in the sticks
 
hope you get it sorted mate if someone pulled that on me i would go bust or jailed lol, cant afford that to happen will have to get contracts signed on big jobs before any work has begun
 
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dont no what else to do mate do i go the legal way or the illegal way i no a few people but it wont stop just by them taking boiler prob burn house down
 
why don't you text him that one way or the other this will be resolved with you getting your money or your property back and that you will consider installment payments providing he sends you the first immediately. worth a shot.
 
90 % of the village can do it that , lol it was a lesson at the comp :)
 
Hi Vectra65,

I had the exact same thing happen to me. In the end i called to the rented property and removed the boiler. People like these know that the law is on their side. If you try and solve it legally it will cost you more than the profit in the job and he'd end up paying you a fiver a week for ever. If you have the reciept for the boiler then as far as im concerned its yours. And if its a card gas meter give it a nudge on the way out!
 
i no mate never had this before try to make aliving and these people do this to us am i responsible to cap the gas off at meter or can i just shut valve might have to do it quick
 
As long as you don't force an entry, ie, if you still have a key, or tenant allows you access, then I personally would risk removing boiler & leaving safe. Its your word against his, so what could the police do, especially if you have a key? He probably wouldnt do a thing. I bet landlord doesn't accept tenants not paying.
 
Small Claims Track Costs and time taken
N1 claim form to file action = ÂŁ80
Allocation Questionaire = ÂŁ40
Hearing fee for claims upto ÂŁ3k = ÂŁ165

The Inland Revenue views Landlords as Rental Businesses so it may be possible to claim compensation (ÂŁ70) and interest (8% above base rate) under the Late Payment of Commercial Debts (Interest) Act 1998, I'll find out next April and let you know. My action is for unpaid work from last March so that'll be 13 months between doing the work and getting paid IF I win the case, I'll let you make your own mind up to whether taking a scumlord to court is worth the agro!!
 
Just knock on the door,walk in saying you are finishing job,take off the wall and walk out,only take 1/2 hour(if police called,all they would do is ask you to leave),if you have time cut back pipework and keep for easy refit by yourself ,once cash in your back pocket,do not mess about,strike while the iron is hot,once you have the boiler in your van,you are in the driving seat,civil case,police will not want to know

imho
 
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He wont of done. Most arent bright enough to think of doing that.
 
My method is to wait - longest so far has been 5½ months, but I still got paid. I've not yet had a bad debt (but have had to stop asking for money where a job's gone a little wrong, which nearly amounts to the same thing.)

None of us likes to wait but I do find it a near fool proof method of receiving payment. In 3 months they can't have any excuses up their sleeve when you prompt them about payment.

If you won't wait then:

First stage is to make sure your "case" is waterproof. For example, does your invoice say pay within a certain period or by a certain date, does it demand full payment or is this not mentioned? Just because you do a job responsively, quickly and to the agreed price does not mean you'll get the payment quickly unless you have sorted this out in advance or show it on the invoice.

Second stage is to contact him.
If he won't talk or meet you then you have to send a letter (recorded delivery). This letter should give him reasonable time to pay, usually 7 days.


After this you need to send another letter (solicitor type letter) giving him another 7 days and warning him of possible charges and interest.
This gives him a full two weeks to pay without penalty.

I'd suggest after this the small claims court is the cheapest and most beneficial method and I think this can be done on line.

There might be a lawyers forum for further advice?

I wish you luck!

PS - if you damage his property or try taking "your" materials back, this amounts to criminal damage and you will be the loser. I know, I don't agree either, but that's the law in this country.
 
i am willing to do anything to get as i see it my property back if it means prison or any other punishment i will except this they should not be allowed to get away with this i know the legal way will take longer but when your out of pocket to some scrowt who wont pay the only action is an eye for an eye
 
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