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vectra65
installed boiler 7 days ago he is refusing to pay for boiler and work done what do i do thanks
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vectra65
dont no what else to do mate do i go the legal way or the illegal way i no a few people but it wont stop just by them taking boiler prob burn house down
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Barry98
is landlord in village ? or else where
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vectra65
from village but lives near donny he wont answer phone or is mate
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break in when no ones there get the boiler and deny it was you
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why don't you text him that one way or the other this will be resolved with you getting your money or your property back and that you will consider installment payments providing he sends you the first immediately. worth a shot.
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Barry98
90 % of the village can do it that , lol it was a lesson at the comp 
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vectra65
wont reply watertight just making excuses up
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Rickster123
Hi Vectra65,
I had the exact same thing happen to me. In the end i called to the rented property and removed the boiler. People like these know that the law is on their side. If you try and solve it legally it will cost you more than the profit in the job and he'd end up paying you a fiver a week for ever. If you have the reciept for the boiler then as far as im concerned its yours. And if its a card gas meter give it a nudge on the way out!
I had the exact same thing happen to me. In the end i called to the rented property and removed the boiler. People like these know that the law is on their side. If you try and solve it legally it will cost you more than the profit in the job and he'd end up paying you a fiver a week for ever. If you have the reciept for the boiler then as far as im concerned its yours. And if its a card gas meter give it a nudge on the way out!
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vectra65
i no mate never had this before try to make aliving and these people do this to us am i responsible to cap the gas off at meter or can i just shut valve might have to do it quick
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Rickster123
22mm comp cap on the gas mate. Cover yourself on safety.
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vectra65
ye thought so mate wish they did pushfit just so i could get away
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As long as you don't force an entry, ie, if you still have a key, or tenant allows you access, then I personally would risk removing boiler & leaving safe. Its your word against his, so what could the police do, especially if you have a key? He probably wouldnt do a thing. I bet landlord doesn't accept tenants not paying.
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shorticus
Small Claims Track Costs and time taken
N1 claim form to file action = £80
Allocation Questionaire = £40
Hearing fee for claims upto £3k = £165
The Inland Revenue views Landlords as Rental Businesses so it may be possible to claim compensation (£70) and interest (8% above base rate) under the Late Payment of Commercial Debts (Interest) Act 1998, I'll find out next April and let you know. My action is for unpaid work from last March so that'll be 13 months between doing the work and getting paid IF I win the case, I'll let you make your own mind up to whether taking a scumlord to court is worth the agro!!
N1 claim form to file action = £80
Allocation Questionaire = £40
Hearing fee for claims upto £3k = £165
The Inland Revenue views Landlords as Rental Businesses so it may be possible to claim compensation (£70) and interest (8% above base rate) under the Late Payment of Commercial Debts (Interest) Act 1998, I'll find out next April and let you know. My action is for unpaid work from last March so that'll be 13 months between doing the work and getting paid IF I win the case, I'll let you make your own mind up to whether taking a scumlord to court is worth the agro!!
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Where is the job whats his name PM me if you want I know all the bad landlords here its where I live
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Puddle
Just knock on the door,walk in saying you are finishing job,take off the wall and walk out,only take 1/2 hour(if police called,all they would do is ask you to leave),if you have time cut back pipework and keep for easy refit by yourself ,once cash in your back pocket,do not mess about,strike while the iron is hot,once you have the boiler in your van,you are in the driving seat,civil case,police will not want to know
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vectra65
what if he as told tenant not to let me in
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Puddle
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Rickster123
He wont of done. Most arent bright enough to think of doing that.
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dontknowitall
My method is to wait - longest so far has been 5½ months, but I still got paid. I've not yet had a bad debt (but have had to stop asking for money where a job's gone a little wrong, which nearly amounts to the same thing.)
None of us likes to wait but I do find it a near fool proof method of receiving payment. In 3 months they can't have any excuses up their sleeve when you prompt them about payment.
If you won't wait then:
First stage is to make sure your "case" is waterproof. For example, does your invoice say pay within a certain period or by a certain date, does it demand full payment or is this not mentioned? Just because you do a job responsively, quickly and to the agreed price does not mean you'll get the payment quickly unless you have sorted this out in advance or show it on the invoice.
Second stage is to contact him.
If he won't talk or meet you then you have to send a letter (recorded delivery). This letter should give him reasonable time to pay, usually 7 days.
After this you need to send another letter (solicitor type letter) giving him another 7 days and warning him of possible charges and interest.
This gives him a full two weeks to pay without penalty.
I'd suggest after this the small claims court is the cheapest and most beneficial method and I think this can be done on line.
There might be a lawyers forum for further advice?
I wish you luck!
PS - if you damage his property or try taking "your" materials back, this amounts to criminal damage and you will be the loser. I know, I don't agree either, but that's the law in this country.
None of us likes to wait but I do find it a near fool proof method of receiving payment. In 3 months they can't have any excuses up their sleeve when you prompt them about payment.
If you won't wait then:
First stage is to make sure your "case" is waterproof. For example, does your invoice say pay within a certain period or by a certain date, does it demand full payment or is this not mentioned? Just because you do a job responsively, quickly and to the agreed price does not mean you'll get the payment quickly unless you have sorted this out in advance or show it on the invoice.
Second stage is to contact him.
If he won't talk or meet you then you have to send a letter (recorded delivery). This letter should give him reasonable time to pay, usually 7 days.
After this you need to send another letter (solicitor type letter) giving him another 7 days and warning him of possible charges and interest.
This gives him a full two weeks to pay without penalty.
I'd suggest after this the small claims court is the cheapest and most beneficial method and I think this can be done on line.
There might be a lawyers forum for further advice?
I wish you luck!
PS - if you damage his property or try taking "your" materials back, this amounts to criminal damage and you will be the loser. I know, I don't agree either, but that's the law in this country.
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vectra65
i am willing to do anything to get as i see it my property back if it means prison or any other punishment i will except this they should not be allowed to get away with this i know the legal way will take longer but when your out of pocket to some scrowt who wont pay the only action is an eye for an eye
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dontknowitall
The likes of Richard Branson didn't start their businesses with that sort of attitude.
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Puddle
Richard Branson had some very wealthy parents behind him despite what the media like to make out and was lucky his pickle business took off !! :beatnik:
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samh
Get a very good solicitor that'll recover all fees from the party that owes money and do it the legal way.
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vectra65
i work by myself i pay my bills my taxes i payed for this boiler out off my own pocket to get **** on by a get of a landlord i dont own houses only one and i work bloody hard to pay for it plus i wasnt born with a silver spoon in my mouth were i live money is money and not a toy you can throw around every penny is hard graft and hard to earn
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sparra1100
didnt ye get the money up front for the boiler
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dontknowitall
I never knew that - or if I did, I'd forgotten.
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vectra65
no mate i no his family and him just dis to abuse people ne knows bad idea
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sparra1100
fone up transco say theres a leak and they wont let you in the,ll cap the gas from outside it cost him £2000 to get it back on
ps providing ye gas safe
ps providing ye gas safe
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i would try and gain access to the household, if something you have paid for which you have the receipt and he has nothing and remove it from his house then whats the deal, you didnt force entry or anyhting like that, seen on the news not that long ago builder didnt get payed for making a canopy outside a house he turned up with sledgehammer destroyed it and took back his bricks
i know the laws the law but i have never been a man of the law anyway, cost you alot of money-stress going to courts, will be cheaper ways of getting your money/payback
i know the laws the law but i have never been a man of the law anyway, cost you alot of money-stress going to courts, will be cheaper ways of getting your money/payback
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paul78
Go back round and knock as i bet he aint told tenants as then they will be suspicious of him afterwards. He would never ring tenants saying dont let gas man in as it would look suspicious. tell tenant theres been a recall with make of boiler and for safety reasons your fitting a brand new one there and then, act normal even ask for a cuppa, keep them talking away with you then remove and say you will be back in 30 mins and NEVER go back! and i guarantee they wont even question it as the end of the day they aint paying. They will never ring you as its landlords resposibility to maintain property, especially a boiler in this weather. Promise it will work mate, but remove and cap safely at least.
Keep everyone posted with outcome mate.
Keep everyone posted with outcome mate.
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