Where can you go after plumbing nvq level 2 (self employed)?

[scottplumber]

Hi, Ive been plumbing a for a couple of years now not that long and just wanted to no how you go about getting your unvented ticket, core gas & water regs. since finishing my apprenticeship a few years ago and now started up on my own just doing plumbing and hanging rads etc i'd like to have a look into gas although i dont if you can do this unless your employed by a company. i was thinking about offering my services to a gas engineer for a few weeks so i can get the very basics and an understanding of what it involves any help always appreciated.

 

[SimonJohns]

do a serach

all info has been posted loads of times

 

[Napper]

experience is a good idea.

you can get all your tickets at an ACS training center they usually do water regs and the like.
if you are working with gas under a qualified engineer with an NVQ2 you could officially do a shorter course but goodluck finding a training company willing to provide it!

 

[Deleted member 25704]

Do an NVQ3, which you will need for the future, as things are going that way.

There are changes afoot with funding, so you may get this funded depending on your age.

When you ask at local colleges, they may not know this, because its recent policy change:

http://www.bis.gov.uk/assets/biscor...374-skills-investment-statement-2011-2014.pdf

Scroll down to check tables

e.g.

Students undertaking a first full Level 3 qualification

Adults aged 19 up to 25​ ​

Full Funding

Full Funding up to age 24

 

[fuzzy]

but to do the nvq you need to be placed or employed. if your employed youll be on an apprenticeship which is co funded, therefore the employer is expected to pay a contribution, 50% could easily be a few thousand pound or more

 

[REDSAW]

you did well to do your apprenticeship in 2 years.

 

[Napper]

I did nvq2 at night school and found it tedious. The content could have been condensed or would have been nice to be able to progress at a better rate. I also found the requirement for numeracy and literacy training a little insulting.
It may have been just the college i went to but wouldnt consider NVQ3 (am i right to think you still have to do ACS tests after NVQ3?)


I also thought that direct ACS route could have been more thorough!

Im just fussy I guess.

 

[Deleted member 25704]

but to do the nvq you need to be placed or employed. if your employed youll be on an apprenticeship which is co funded, therefore the employer is expected to pay a contribution, 50% could easily be a few thousand pound or more

Going off the economic figures for unemployment, the need for skilled labour to kick start the renewables industry and the fact that this market is not being taken up by sufficient numbers in the BSE sector...then this is a policy aimed at the unemployed, or those wanting to enter the industry.

So would colleges turn people away when they have spent millions on expanding their facilities to deal with large volumes of training?

I think those self employed or unemployed as plumbers without NVQ3 will be welcomed with open arms on this.

In addition, licence to practice is inevitible for plumbing, so NVQ3 will help meet the minimum technical competency MTC laid down by summitskills.

The target skills need laid down by the government policies are intermediate skills (NVQ3), so sooner or later all those who completed NVQ2 will be expected or encouraged to do NVQ3, to brings us into line with skill levels across Europe.

If people are being turned away from NVQ3 because they do not have an employer, this would really surprise me.

I would be interested to know if NVQ3 requires an employer - if so, then why are people doing them without employers (those converting tech certs to NVQs) or are there stricter rules for the QCF/NVQ.

 

[fuzzy]

Going off the economic figures for unemployment, the need for skilled labour to kick start the renewables industry and the fact that this market is not being taken up by sufficient numbers in the BSE sector...then this is a policy aimed at the unemployed, or those wanting to enter the industry.

So would colleges turn people away when they have spent millions on expanding their facilities to deal with large volumes of training?

I think those self employed or unemployed as plumbers without NVQ3 will be welcomed with open arms on this.

In addition, licence to practice is inevitible for plumbing, so NVQ3 will help meet the minimum technical competency MTC laid down by summitskills.

The target skills need laid down by the government policies are intermediate skills (NVQ3), so sooner or later all those who completed NVQ2 will be expected or encouraged to do NVQ3, to brings us into line with skill levels across Europe.

If people are being turned away from NVQ3 because they do not have an employer, this would really surprise me.

I would be interested to know if NVQ3 requires an employer - if so, then why are people doing them without employers (those converting tech certs to NVQs) or are there stricter rules for the QCF/NVQ.

but you cannot upgrade a tech cerrt to nvq without working in the industry, it is not possible, the nvq is the on site evidence, no college work required thats all tech cert.
so colleges will not enrol studnets on a course they cannot pass, they would be shut down and refused future funding

 

[fuzzy]

I did nvq2 at night school and found it tedious. The content could have been condensed or would have been nice to be able to progress at a better rate. I also found the requirement for numeracy and literacy training a little insulting.
It may have been just the college i went to but wouldnt consider NVQ3 (am i right to think you still have to do ACS tests after NVQ3?)


I also thought that direct ACS route could have been more thorough!

Im just fussy I guess.

ACS is not a training course, the NVQ and associated TC is. the ACS is effectively a competence persons scheme. so you should be either previously competent or almost to do your acs, its not for newbies
you can do acs with no quals whatsoever
literacy and numeracy is a government thing, nothing colleges can do about it, you dont pass them you dont pass the full course