Daryl or Kohler temperature spline 204292

[Neil M]

I need to find a plastic temperature spline Daryl or Kohler 204292 or equivalent. It seems that part is discontinued but I'm loathe to replace a whole good quality shower because of a small broken plastic connector. Can anyone help?

 

[diy_massacre]

Do you have any more pictures to see the spline?

I just replaced my concealed shower unit for similar reasons due to discontinued parts.

 

[Neil M]

Do you have any more pictures to see the spline?

I just replaced my concealed shower unit for similar reasons due to discontinued parts.

Here is a pic. My one disintegrated. Seems a shame to replace whole shower due to 1 small plastic device

 

[diy_massacre]

Hi

Now I see the spare part thankyou.

I think you have 3 options, buy a spare part from somewhere, you could call them and ask them why they cannot supply, maybe it out of stock for a short time or maybe they are no longer able to supply, if thats not possible you are a bit stuck, for the intervening time you could use a spline tool to turn it on and off for showers. The only other option is to buy a and fit a new unit.

 

[Neil M]

Hi

Now I see the spare part thankyou.

I think you have 3 options, buy a spare part from somewhere, you could call them and ask them why they cannot supply, maybe it out of stock for a short time or maybe they are no longer able to supply, if thats not possible you are a bit stuck, for the intervening time you could use a spline tool to turn it on and off for showers. The only other option is to buy a and fit a new unit.

 

[Neil M]

Thanks for all tips and advice.... particularly how to remove and open the shower. In the end I went for option 4: repair the broken plastic widget with a small screw, a washer and unibond repair putty. I also replaced a few of the John guest pushfit parts which were slowly leaking with new ones easily available from hardware shops. So far it is working well. I think you could also refashion the diverter or flow plastic spine to turn the temp valve with a perpendicular metal bar as it has a slot for that. A 9mm fluted dowel pin with perpendicular metal bar might also have worked and was my plan c if repair putty hadn't worked. In future if anyone sees this thread and is disposing of their shower I'd be happy to buy some parts ....or give repair advice now that I have fixed my own.

 

[GrahamJ]

Thanks for all tips and advice.... particularly how to remove and open the shower. In the end I went for option 4: repair the broken plastic widget with a small screw, a washer and unibond repair putty. I also replaced a few of the John guest pushfit parts which were slowly leaking with new ones easily available from hardware shops. So far it is working well. I think you could also refashion the diverter or flow plastic spine to turn the temp valve with a perpendicular metal bar as it has a slot for that. A 9mm fluted dowel pin with perpendicular metal bar might also have worked and was my plan c if repair putty hadn't worked. In future if anyone sees this thread and is disposing of their shower I'd be happy to buy some parts ....or give repair advice now that I have fixed my own.

Hi
I've the same problem. Any top tips for the repair - you mention using a small screw? Plus the black John Guest item that fits into the diverter valve has snapped off. Do you know if they are a push fit or a screw fit into the housing? Finally what diameter are the pipes; the white ones are 10mm but the black ones aren't labelled. Any help really welcome...

 

[Neil M]

Hi
I've the same problem. Any top tips for the repair - you mention using a small screw? Plus the black John Guest item that fits into the diverter valve has snapped off. Do you know if they are a push fit or a screw fit into the housing? Finally what diameter are the pipes; the white ones are 10mm but the black ones aren't labelled. Any help really welcome...

 

[Neil M]

There are a mix of 10mm and 12mm pipes. Mine are all black. There are 2 screw in BSP 1/2 inch male to 10mm plastic inserts at cold and hot water intake. I think at the diverter all is push in. I had a problem with the diverter and my solution was to set it permanently to the shower head and removed the widget from inside the handle that turns to operate the diverter. I used a small screw down the middle of the thin long part of the widget for strength in repairing the cracked plastic with a washer for same reason. Tbh perhaps it was overkill and you might only need unibond repair putty. Which widget broke for you? Temp or flow? Both mine broke. I was able to buy one on line(I think the flow is available) I also think that you could refashion the diverter widget to work for the temperature. A 9mm wooden dowel pin and a small metal bar at 90degrees for the slot might work too....it just has to turn a valve around...

 

[Neil M]

There are a mix of 10mm and 12mm pipes. Mine are all black. There are 2 screw in BSP 1/2 inch male to 10mm plastic inserts at cold and hot water intake. I think at the diverter all is push in. I had a problem with the diverter and my solution was to set it permanently to the shower head and removed the widget from inside the handle that turns to operate the diverter. I used a small screw down the middle of the thin long part of the widget for strength in repairing the cracked plastic with a washer for same reason. Tbh perhaps it was overkill and you might only need unibond repair putty. Which widget broke for you? Temp or flow? Both mine broke. I was able to buy one on line(I think the flow is available) I also think that you could refashion the diverter widget to work for the temperature. A 9mm wooden dowel pin and a small metal bar at 90degrees for the slot might work too....it just has to turn a valve around...

Some of the 12mm JG fittings and the screw in BSP connectors are available from electronic bay as motorhome or caravan plumbing fixtures.

 

[rpm]

Some of the 12mm JG fittings and the screw in BSP connectors are available from electronic bay as motorhome or caravan plumbing fixtures.

Cant find an Electronic Bay, would you have a link to them.

 

[Deleted member 120897]

Cant find an Electronic Bay, would you have a link to them.

Electronic bay (Ebay for short).

 

[Neil M]

Electronic bay (Ebay for short).

Its one of the most famous websites in the world. If I typed it's shorter correct name the post gets blocked automatically

 

[GrahamJ]

There are a mix of 10mm and 12mm pipes. Mine are all black. There are 2 screw in BSP 1/2 inch male to 10mm plastic inserts at cold and hot water intake. I think at the diverter all is push in. I had a problem with the diverter and my solution was to set it permanently to the shower head and removed the widget from inside the handle that turns to operate the diverter. I used a small screw down the middle of the thin long part of the widget for strength in repairing the cracked plastic with a washer for same reason. Tbh perhaps it was overkill and you might only need unibond repair putty. Which widget broke for you? Temp or flow? Both mine broke. I was able to buy one on line(I think the flow is available) I also think that you could refashion the diverter widget to work for the temperature. A 9mm wooden dowel pin and a small metal bar at 90degrees for the slot might work too....it just has to turn a valve around...

Thanks Neil. For me it is the temperature spline. I've ordered the flow one and hoping to use it as the basis of a repair. I'm intrigued as to repurposing the diverter spline. I'll have a look.

 

[Neil M]

Thanks Neil. For me it is the temperature spline. I've ordered the flow one and hoping to use it as the basis of a repair. I'm intrigued as to repurposing the diverter spline. I'll have a look.

Thanks Neil. For me it is the temperature spline. I've ordered the flow one and hoping to use it as the basis of a repair. I'm intrigued as to repurposing the diverter spline. I'll have a look.

 

[Neil M]

For temp spline the thin narrow spline had snapped off from the larger diameter section. If that is the same case for you...a small screw with the head of the screw being held by a washer in the inside of the larger diameter section and the screw itself screwing inside the narrow section might hold them together....held in place with a small amount of epoxy putty...

 

[GrahamJ]

I managed to get the parts (splines and new units for diverter, flow control and mixer) from someone who contacted me after seeing my post on this forum. Great - so the shower was put back in place this afternoon - a bit like Trigger's broom, with almost all new parts.

 

[DavidMcK]

I managed to get the parts (splines and new units for diverter, flow control and mixer) from someone who contacted me after seeing my post on this forum. Great - so the shower was put back in place this afternoon - a bit like Trigger's broom, with almost all new parts.

Graham I was about to post that we had the temp spline 3D printed. Whilst it was close, it didn't quite fit to about to tweak the drawing and redo in resin. But if you have a contact who can supply the splines I'd gladly purchase from them.

 

[GrahamJ]

Graham I was about to post that we had the temp spline 3D printed. Whilst it was close, it didn't quite fit to about to tweak the drawing and redo in resin. But if you have a contact who can supply the splines I'd gladly purchase from them.

I'm just waiting for the best contact details - he's on this forum as 'Shower Engineer' Dave. Really helpful guy. I'll be back as soon as I've heard. He did contract for Daryl as engineer and bought stock when they were taken over.