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baileys
My plumbers say i dont need one as i have thermostatic valves on my radiators but the GSE says i do. Im in a two bedroom maisonette. [FONT=arial, sans-serif][/FONT]
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should i have a room thermostat with my combi boiler.
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You now know what your system should have and how it should be configured.
Tell the plumber that you need it done in accordance with the building regs.
If between then they wont, then report to Gas Safe, Building Control, and your local Citizens Advice Bureau, as they shouldn't be allowed to continue this bad practice.
Just dowload the document on this link TACMA launches its guide to the new 2010 Part L Regulations - BEAMA | News
print it out and show it to them....
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Tell the plumber that you need it done in accordance with the building regs.
If between then they wont, then report to Gas Safe, Building Control, and your local Citizens Advice Bureau, as they shouldn't be allowed to continue this bad practice.
Just dowload the document on this link TACMA launches its guide to the new 2010 Part L Regulations - BEAMA | News
print it out and show it to them....
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baileys
He will charge me for the room stat because it wasnt in the quote, i just thought that i was getting everything that was needed. I rang the guy who connected the gas today and asked him why he had ticked the box that said boiler interlock provided, he said that its nothing to do with having a room stat and that it just means that you can turn the boiler off manually.
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basildog
He really knows his stuff then !!!!!!!!
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mountainman
That's a new one on me!
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baileys
No, the rads sound like they have got air in them, they are hissing but when i bleed them no air comes out. Its a very annoying noise.
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baileys
He does doesnt he. Im female and know very little about heating but i think i know a bit more than him.
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If I was you I would concentrate on getting everything working first. I think you should ask the fitter to come back and look at the noise/air issue.
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basildog
A simple explanation ?
Boiler interlock is not a physical device but an arrangement of the system controls (room thermostats, programmable room thermostats, cylinder thermostats, programmers and time switches) so as to ensure that the boiler does not fire when there is no demand for heat. In a system with a combi boiler it can be achieved by fitting a room thermostat.
In a system with a regular boiler it can be achieved by correct wiring interconnection of the room thermostat, cylinder thermostat, and motorised valve(s). It may also be achieved by more advanced controls, such as a boiler energy manager. TRVs alone are not sufficient for boiler interlock
Boiler interlock is not a physical device but an arrangement of the system controls (room thermostats, programmable room thermostats, cylinder thermostats, programmers and time switches) so as to ensure that the boiler does not fire when there is no demand for heat. In a system with a combi boiler it can be achieved by fitting a room thermostat.
In a system with a regular boiler it can be achieved by correct wiring interconnection of the room thermostat, cylinder thermostat, and motorised valve(s). It may also be achieved by more advanced controls, such as a boiler energy manager. TRVs alone are not sufficient for boiler interlock
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baileys
i have questioned whether i did get the right installer but its a bit late now. I thought they were competent, how was i meant to know. The benchmark has been filled out as i said but he has ticked the box that says boiler interlock provided and as i said above he said its nothing to do with a room stat.
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baileys
This is what i read and tried to explain to him but he wont listen.
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Rickster123
Then get rid of him. Cut your losses on it and get a professional in. I've followed your posts and I'm abit concerned about your install. Can you post pictures of the boiler install?
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baileys
so am i worried. I dont want him to do anything to my heating anymore. I know i should cut my losses but im very angry for the situation he has put me in because i know his family well but i dont want to involve them as its not their problem.
I will post some pics, what exactly do you need to see.
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Rickster123
I'd like to see the boiler, the flue, the pipework to the boiler and the gas meter please if poss.
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baileys
Ok thanks, i will get my son to take some pics and post them, he will be home soon.
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baileys
Here are the photos
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Rickster123
The flue needs sealing inside and the pipework is extremely close to your electrics.
Is your gas meter next to the boiler cupboard? Where does the white waste pipe run to?
Is your gas meter next to the boiler cupboard? Where does the white waste pipe run to?
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Rickster123
And you need the gas pipe earthed.
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baileys
The gas meter is in the cupboard next to the boiler and the white pipe goes into the sink waste.
I did ask if the boiler could leak as its so near the electrics and he said it shouldn't.
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Ermintrude
He's basically taken your money and run. Your family is going to be affected by this so why not let his family know what an a$$hol£ they are related to. I would be reporting them both to gas safe. 1. The 'plumber' illegally installed appliance ( the gas pipe is not the only bit you must be gas safe registered for, who out of interest decommissioned, purged and capped old supply? )
2. The muppet who connected the gas and fraudulently filled in paperwork? Yes he commissioned it but he was complicit in the installation by the 'plumber'
2. The muppet who connected the gas and fraudulently filled in paperwork? Yes he commissioned it but he was complicit in the installation by the 'plumber'
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baileys
I know, you are right in everything you say but the people i have spoken to about it just tell me to get someone else in. How do i know though that the next person is not going to rip me off and start wanting to replace things that dont need doing, its taken me a long time to save up for my heating.
Im also not the type of person to let someone get away with doing this to me, they are making me look stupid and its winding me up even more.
Ive tried explaining to them that i need a fulling working legal system but they think what they have done is ok, they dont see no wrong in it.
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Ermintrude
Well . First thing is take some photographs of the work and we can all pick fault,,, but then actually give you a list which you must get sorted, a list if what you might like to get sorted and a list that you can sort?
Firstly as previously requested photos then some of the radiators.
Where are u located?
Firstly as previously requested photos then some of the radiators.
Where are u located?
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basildog
My advice would be to contact someone maybe from a reccomendation from here ask for a quote to bring up to spec and give the original guy say 7 days to correct or you will claim cost of work from him ?
A lot depends on whether it was a mates rates job or you have a full paperwork trail ?
Might be worth contacting Gas Safe you would have to ask the guys on here as I am not in that club and not sure I want to be !
Maybe post your quote if you have one you can hide the installers details .
A lot depends on whether it was a mates rates job or you have a full paperwork trail ?
Might be worth contacting Gas Safe you would have to ask the guys on here as I am not in that club and not sure I want to be !
Maybe post your quote if you have one you can hide the installers details .
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Ermintrude
Why hide installers details ..... Unless they are mine ? Name and shame the doosh!
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I couldn't actually see any bonding, (earthing), certainly should have been tested to ensure Zs of earth terminal adequate. Also looks like none of the pipes are supported.
Ther are lots of reasons why your newly installed boiler isn't building regs compliant. Hope you haven't paid them in full yet.
Ther are lots of reasons why your newly installed boiler isn't building regs compliant. Hope you haven't paid them in full yet.
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basildog
Is that an airbrick in picture 1 ?
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Not in the scope of most gsr's as you know and no requirement to do so. Only requirement is to inform the householder to get it checked usually with a pre-printed card.
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baileys
I wouldn't call it mates rates as his quote was only a couple of hundred less than the other quotes i got. He only wrote the name of the boiler on the quote that he was installing. He did tell me that if i wasnt a friend then his price would of been three times the amount, i told him that he wouldn't of got the job then, so yes he thinks he has done me a good deal.
So basically im screwed, i will get over it soon but i hate the thought of him getting away with it. He is so smug, he sees no wrong in what he is doing.
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basildog
This looks like a totally new installation to me with new wiring new gas meter etc ?
Whoever did the electrics would need to be certified ?
Whoever did the electrics would need to be certified ?
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