Heat genie?

[Ermintrude]

Any one fitted any?
http://systemlink.ie/products-59/heat-genie.html

 

[Roger Welton]

No but the animated arrows are great!

 

[Ermintrude]

I'm not sure that these comply with building regs in UK.Big farm, he's also fitting a bio mass stove ?
Wasn't convinced when he asked me if he could fit nrv on 28mm grav primaries but return was pumped! Oh dear

 

[Pipes Plumbing]

They do comply with UK regs, so long as the rest of the system is designed right...
I haven't used one though, I just do a similar thing with a plate hex and a few other bits (depending on the system design) when connecting up to a sealed system.
That way you can keep an open vented circuit on the solid fuel side and the rest of the system can do what it needs to under pressure... There has to be plenty of properly sized safety fallbacks when doing these, it's not something that just gets chucked in

 

[Ermintrude]

They do comply with UK regs, so long as the rest of the system is designed right...
I haven't used one though, I just do a similar thing with a plate hex and a few other bits (depending on the system design) when connecting up to a sealed system.
That way you can keep an open vented circuit on the solid fuel side and the rest of the system can do what it needs to under pressure... There has to be plenty of properly sized safety fallbacks when doing these, it's not something that just gets chucked in

Take a trip to consett, eastgate, woolsington and frosterly. Loads getting thrown in.

 

[Pipes Plumbing]

Oof, lots of fun for the future then...

 

[SimonG]

Take a trip to consett, eastgate, woolsington and frosterly. Loads getting thrown in.

Must be wolsingham is it?

 

[Ermintrude]

You know where it's at. Webbed fingers and a maid. Knitsley is the last bomb I heard they installed.

 

[SimonG]

Ventured that far a couple of times. Wolsingham, Crook, St Johns Chapel

 

[deano1011]

They do comply with UK regs, so long as the rest of the system is designed right...
I haven't used one though, I just do a similar thing with a plate hex and a few other bits (depending on the system design) when connecting up to a sealed system.
That way you can keep an open vented circuit on the solid fuel side and the rest of the system can do what it needs to under pressure... There has to be plenty of properly sized safety fallbacks when doing these, it's not something that just gets chucked in

I have just been asked to connect a solid fuel stove to a combi system via a heat exchanger. may i as what other bits and bobs you need. i'm currently struggling to design it. i'm starting to go down the h2 board route as its more of an all in one with good technical back up but the home owner has the heat exchanger idea in his head

 

[Ermintrude]

It's barley worth it. U need a buffer or thermal store.

 

[lame plumber]

arent they just a low loss header given an expensive brand name

 

[Nostrum]

The two sides are hydraulically separate so it's just a big plate heat exchanger I would guess, but I'd question the gravity side having to go through the pump? Surely this would restrict gravity circulation?

 

[Pipes Plumbing]

There's a cold water quench in there too...

 

[Nostrum]

Yes but even in there own literature it says that the circuit should be piped to allow gravity circulation in the event of a power cut?

 

[Norcs]

System link don't show heat leak rads in their heat genie schematics. In fact they say heat leaks are wasteful on energy.
The cooling process would depend on the stove pump remaining operational.
If not then "pitching" can occur through the vent.

DPS used to sell Danfoss AVTA cooling valves for the heat leak rad before they went bust. An elegant solution ensuring the cylinder heats first.
Which is how I plumbed my own system.
Not sure if Thermal Integrations are selling this product now.

 

[Norcs]

In southern Ireland old traditional sf systems had no heat leak rad. Rads weren't invented back then.
Our old system when I lived there used to pitch on a regular basis through the vent which went through the roof.
Plenty of systems still like that.

Pipes making a whooshing and banging sound. Used to be like music to our ears.

People now would make a big fuss over it.