Government free boiler schemes

[rayplumber]

I am hoping somebody on here has some information on how to get some work from the free boiler schemes not sub contracting but getting registered to do it freom start to finish ie eco & greendeal also anything else or is it not worth it would be good if we could all put the info we have on one thread cheers Ray

 

[GasmanxxxR1]

Need to be PAS 2030 etc etc

Looking into doing this myself, been mulling over the glow-worm club eco deal, its on their website, might be worth a look.

I too am confused about exactly what i need to do to be fitting boilers on these schemes, and not a little irritated that i have to pay out money to training provider so i can do my job

 

[Worcester]

The process is consumer driven / and or marketing led by who makes the most money - i.e.
1) Mrs Bloggins boiler breaks down - who ya gonna call..
or
2) Got a flyer through the door today [DLMURL="http://www.energycaregroupltd.co.uk/freeboilerreplacement.html"]Energy Care Group Ltd[/DLMURL]
in the later they make money three ways
a) 'profit' on the install - they charge more than they pay the subbies
b) 'profit' on the equipment - they charge more than they buy it for
c) the process, they get paid for the EPC, GDA, and administering it, and another EPC

Being 'qualified' to install a green deal measure means you've been assessed to PAS2030 for that measure
the the process is really quite simple for the consumer (tongue firmly in cheek)

 

[stevetheplumber]

another nail in the coffin of the small installers all the profit from the jobs goes to someone else who knows how to work the system

 

[bcp]

Hold on a mo chaps.
If you are prepared to take on the business and financial risk, set up a local/regional/national organisation, including sales, marketing, back office, supply, storage, staff, PR, logistics, phones, internet, government compliance, funding for the business, etc etc (in other words a normal business venture), no one or nothing is stopping you from rolling out this operation in your own right. If you cant or don't want to do all of this, try and get in on the installer side (no you will not earn the lions share of the profit-if any - its a business and as always those at the top earn the most) and earn something on the back of it. But it really is no different from any other business, including yours but maybe on a different scale.
I am speaking of course of genuine on-the-level non rip-off ventures. Those fly by nights and rip off merchants I would never condone and sadly there are some out there.

 

[A1P]

I was offered the princely sum of £200 per boiler swap ,this based on other people's surveys.Ridiculous price and it is madness to be expected to do a swap in a day without having seen the job.The organiser was pocketing 2 or 3 times this without getting their hands dirty.

 

[Worcester]

The problem is, as the Installer, you are very much piggy in the middle. Your options are:

I) Act as a lowest cost subby to the bigger groups
2) Set up your own process to manage all of the above
3) find the middle ground - and that's where most self employed / small businesses would like to be - to have some control over the process and appear to offer to whole deal.That's where these other schemes are, the problem is most of them aren't really up and running yet.

I know of schemes that are being set up by:
Grafton Group (Plumbase)
Wolseley (PlumbCentre)
Kingfisher (B&Q)
Your GDP (designed for small businesses)

Glow-worm of course is owned by Vaillant, and neither are registered as a Green Deal Provider (GDP) - and the GDP's are the key to access the funding

The 'free boiler' schemes are based on ECO funding:

What is ECO funding?

The Energy Company Obligation (ECO) is a funding stream which was released at the beginning of October 2012. An annual £1.3 billion grant is available to enable landlords, private tenants and housing providers to upgrade their housing stock.

ECO funding is split into three different streams with:

60% going into the Carbon Emissions Reduction Obligation (CERO), targeting domestic hard to treat households in particular
15% going into the Carbon Saving Community Obligation (CSCO), targeting the lowest 15% income areas in England, Scotland and Wales
25% going into the Home Heating Cost Reduction Obligation (HHCRO), targeting the most vulnerable homes in the private sector

Who's elgible for what - I'll post that up later ...

If anyone else knows schemes that are readily open to any installer led replacement opportunity, post them here please.

 

[woodsy]

Been offered the same deal in Bradford , £ 200 not just for a combi to combi swap which is a joke but any design of old system to swap over to a combi, the same money (and if you are vat registered take it out of the £200). Politely said not interested !!!

 

[julesverne]

Have you been through manningham lately in bradford. Plastered with banners everywhere offering free boilers. It will be cold day in hell before i do a boiler install on eco. Whats the point of being self employed if your making money for someone else by subbing. I would rather go and work for BG or the AA

 

[woodsy]

Been told that one particular co in Bradford has 8000 lined up already, surprise, surprise