conventional boiler set help needed

[scanny1]

hopefully sometime this year ill be taking my open fed conventional boiler out and replacing it with a a combi boiler once im gas safe,but not 100% how the radiator set up works ,i know basically that the pipes running from the boiler go to the copper tank are flow and return .the flow pipe runs to the pump then to the 3way valve to either go through the coil in the tank or to heat the radiators up, then for the radiator pipes runs and T off to the different radiators around the house. but un sure about the return pipe from the radiator! .tell me if im wrong does the bottom pipe from the copper tank which is also the( return flow for the hot water) do i T into this and use this for the return flow from the radiators thanks

 

[Howsie]

The first thing you'll learn with gas is to not attempt something beyond your capabilities on your own. The same applies here. Do you know a HE that could walk through it with you?

 

[Whn1]

I'm with howsie mate, not the kinda thing you want to start with.
Took me a few year before I started understanding conventionals, start at the beginning and work your way up.

 

[SimonG]

That's why I always thought if you are doing gas you need plumbing as well. It's the same with oil, on a breakdown half the time it's not even the boiler. On an install you'll come across allsorts and you need to know what you are doing.

It's all experience and you have to start somewhere, Howsie's idea is a good starting point.

 

[stevetheplumber]

the return from the cylinder is always the last tee on the return so you should be able to work it out from there

 

[sam51]

hopefully sometime this year ill be taking my open fed conventional boiler out and replacing it with a a combi boiler once im gas safe,but not 100% how the radiator set up works ,i know basically that the pipes running from the boiler go to the copper tank are flow and return .the flow pipe runs to the pump then to the 3way valve to either go through the coil in the tank or to heat the radiators up, then for the radiator pipes runs and T off to the different radiators around the house. but un sure about the return pipe from the radiator! .tell me if im wrong does the bottom pipe from the copper tank which is also the( return flow for the hot water) do i T into this and use this for the return flow from the radiators thanks

when you say you are going to be gas safe.but from your post you don't have a clue about heating systems,
who taught you, are are you self taught,
you need far more experience,
if you don't know what you are doing get a skilled heating engineer in.
what is this profession coming to.
i certainly wouldn't let you lose in my house.

 

[lame plumber]

sprint first and when you slow down learn to walk!!!!!!!!!

 

[scanny1]

thanks for the replys and advice but really need to know if the return off the copper tank (the bottom one) is that also the return flow from the radiators

 

[lame plumber]

go have a look at your training books asap as you need a lot deeper knowledge before letting yourself loose on your own place let alone the world

 

[scanny1]

thanks for all the advice your are so kind ,to be honest most of the people i have spoken to from british gas they have no qualification in plumbing at all they just have gas safe,I thought this was a forum for help .sadly it isnt

 

[RoryD]

...there may be trouble aheeeeaaad...

 

[Whn1]

but while theres moonlight and music and love and romance.

 

[Whn1]

thanks for all the advice your are so kind ,to be honest most of the people i have spoken to from british gas they have no qualification in plumbing at all they just have gas safe,I thought this was a forum for help .sadly it isnt

Do you not realise what you just said? Do ou understand the reputation British gas carry with themselves?

 

[Destroyer2813]

but while theres moonlight and music and love and romance.

There will be a leaking system that dosent work in this propety

 

[tom609]

do you have any experience or are just setting out? why do you want to know about the return pipe do you have a problm with it

 

[scanny1]

i have some experience just been some years out of it to be honest ,i need to join the flow and return together as im changing it from conventional to combi you see

 

[tom609]

i have some experience just been some years out of it to be honest ,i need to join the flow and return together as im changing it from conventional to combi you see

in response to your question yes the return will connect into the radiator return how close it is to the cylinder it is i couldnt say but i would probably guess it will be close to the cylinder, but why would you want to connect them together ??? as previously quoted you need to do some reading up to refresh your knowledge

 

[Whn1]

There will be a leaking system that dosent work in this propety

Ahhhh couldn't remember the next lyric, thanks.

 

[SimonG]

thanks for all the advice your are so kind ,to be honest most of the people i have spoken to from british gas they have no qualification in plumbing at all they just have gas safe,I thought this was a forum for help .sadly it isnt

Oh but it is. You have been advised that from your posts you haven't got a scooby doo what you are doing and should get somebody who knows what they are doing to assist.

Or do you expect step by step instructions that you probably can't follow and flood the house?

 

[scanny1]

replying to tom 609 im joining the 2 pipes together as i want to removed the copper tank, to replace the old boiler with a combi boiler in

 

[snowhead]

replying to tom 609 im joining the 2 pipes together as i want to removed the copper tank, to replace the old boiler with a combi boiler in

Then they don't need joining.
Your lack of understanding continues.

You need someone on site looking at it with you, it's a 2 minute job as opposed to a 2 day job, probably with the wrong outcome , on a forum.

 

[Whn1]

Are you planning on fitting the boiler Yourself too?

 

[SimonG]

Post #20. I rest my cases.

 

[tom609]

the guy wants info what he does with it is his choice

 

[Whn1]

the guy wants info what he does with it is his choice

Help him then.

 

[tom609]

i have posted the info he asked for the fact that he doesnt sound like he knows what he is doing is not the point of the forum it is surely to give info and politely guide them into getting an experienced engineer to do the work, they are ultimately, probably going to start the work anyway

 

[scanny1]

well thanks for your help guys .did get a plumber round i did need to connect them together .snowhead are you really a plumber

 

[Whn1]

You didn't need to do that.

 

[snowhead]

snowhead are you really a plumber

No, Commercial heating engineer and more.

 

[snowhead]

You didn't need to do that.

You're not a Plumber or heating engineer either then???