is an ECV actually mainly used as a Service Valve ???

[Dean Williams]

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it's a matter of getting things into prospective

i think the real reason is "your not paying your standing charge and you may be stealing gas" SO WE ARE GOING TO DISCONNECT YOU

 

[Dean Williams]

i think the real reason is "your not paying your standing charge and you may be stealing gas" SO WE ARE GOING TO DISCONNECT YOU

only saying things as they really are .....i'm a realist

 

[Dean Williams]

only saying things as they really are ...i'm a realist

i think you can tell ,,,,,i'm really pi""ed off with them

 

[Dean Williams]

i think you can tell ,,,,,i'm really pi""ed off with them

There is about as much safety issue's with my property as there is with the rest of the housed on the planet lol

 

[Dean Williams]

There is about as much safety issue's with my property as there is with the rest of the housed on the planet lol

am i right ....or am i wrong ??????????????

 

[snowhead]

There is about as much safety issue's with my property as there is with the rest of the housed on the planet lol

The majority of houses with a live gas supply are occupied, so if there's a leak it would be noticed.
An empty property with a live supply, even capped is a risk, just as much from the gas service pipe outside the property as the capped ECV inside.
Hence the mention of within 30mtrs of the property.

The less empty properties with a live supply the lower the risk to everyone nearby that property.

I'm not sure you have time for any battles if you want gas for Xmas.
I think you'll be lucky to get the new service in by then.

This is what happens when gas gets loose inside properties;
gas explosions houses - Google Search

 

[Dean Williams]

The majority of houses with a live gas supply are occupied, so if there's a leak it would be noticed.
An empty property with a live supply, even capped is a risk, just as much from the gas service pipe outside the property as the capped ECV inside.
Hence the mention of within 30mtrs of the property.

The less empty properties with a live supply the lower the risk to everyone nearby that property.

I'm not sure you have time for any battles if you want gas for Xmas.
I think you'll be lucky to get the new service in by then.

the 30m of occupied property refers to old cast iron pipework so that is irrelevant in my case............and an occupied property would be more of a risk than an unoccupied property ...... the majority of gas leaks within a property are from after the meter "not before" and the ones on the service pipe will happen irrespective of occupied or unoccupied don't you think ?

 

[Dean Williams]

the 30m of occupied property refers to old cast iron pipework so that is irrelevant in my case...and an occupied property would be more of a risk than an unoccupied property .. the majority of gas leaks within a property are from after the meter "not before" and the ones on the service pipe will happen irrespective of occupied or unoccupied don't you think ?

P,S They cut off my supply 150mm outside my wall as it is a terrace property on the highway

 

[Dean Williams]

in English old money that's a full 6"

 

[Last Plumber]

i am grateful for your comments and taking time to post them its a learning curve for us all , i know you said removing would be safer than capping but wouldn't all houses be safer with it disconnected then !!!!

Of course. We would all be safer without Gas in our buildings. That goes for Industrial, Commercial and Domestic properties. We would all be safer without 275000 Km of buried pipes carrying Gas at various pressures under our feet. That is why there is a massive industry built around the safety aspect.

the 30m of occupied property refers to old cast iron pipework so that is irrelevant in my case...

The 30 Meters refers to all pipes. See below:-

23 Iron includes cast iron, spun cast iron, and ductile iron. Pipes made from steel are not covered by regulation 13A. However, steel and pipelines made from other materials still have to be maintained in good repair under the Pipelines Safety Regulations 1996, regulation 13.

This means that they are all to be included in the general maintenance programme. The removal of a redundant pipe, whatever the material, is safer than leaving it live.

and an occupied property would be more of a risk than an unoccupied property .. the majority of gas leaks within a property are from after the meter "not before" and the ones on the service pipe will happen irrespective of occupied or unoccupied don't you think ?

A leak on an ECV could of course occur whether the building is occupied or unoccupied. The occupancy of a building does effect the risk assessment. If a building is occupied, there is more chance of someone detecting a leak and reporting it.

I think we could discuss this until the cows come home.
If you want two meters or two supplies you would need to apply anyway, even if the service was still connected. They wouldn't just install another meter without calcs. The pressure in the street may be low and the service pipe might not be large enough to supply two meters/two flats.

I think you need to apply for that to be sorted. In my area of the UK, this kind of work can take around three months from the application to it being carried out.

As I said earlier, good luck, let us know how you go on.