Powerflushing

[Riley]

Morning all just trying to see if I can start a conversation on "professional" powerflushing.

Went on the Kamco training course yesterday,which I have to say is extremely good, definitely learned some stuff I didn't know so well worth the trip.

I have several systems coming up that are badly in need of flushing, I have a kamco machine now but am sadly bereft of testing equipment.

What are people's thoughts re things like PH and TDS meters?? Do you get what you pay for ???

i was borrowing meters from my mate previously and he got them both in a set for about £20. PH was pretty much spot on when compared to litmus paper and TDS gave readings within tolerance when compared to tap water once system cleaned?? Would we just be talking the spread of readings i.e. On a cheap set it would be a much narrower less precise scale??? I know the old adage of buy cheap buy twice but how inaccurate can these things be??

im just trying to find if anyone knows of a testing set that is of a suitable quality with a competitive price (Ray???). Or what people's thoughts are on water testing equipment

cheers

 

[joni os]

Systems got flushed before TDS meters, in the same way that radiators were balanced before infrared non contact thermo guns became readily available. However, when selling a service, meeting clients expectations must be a consideration. A cheap <£10 TDS meter and strip of litmus papers will meet expectations, leaving time and money to be invested in equipment of greater use to the flushing process.

 

[Riley]

Totally see your point mate. My kind of overall feel with flushing though is that people like to see something for their money. That's why I always use a magnacleanse in sequence with powerflushing to show the muck being pulled from the system. I guess it's smoke and mirrors, you and I both know that if the Magnacleanse wasn't there the muck would just be going down the drain but when the customer can see in front of them the benefit to the flush they are more likely to trust your judgement and you as a business and hopefully generate more work. In addition with this seemingly never ending spate of manufactures trying to wriggle out of guarantees by using these meters and recording it on some form of certificate you are kind of covering all bases and showing that you have taken the flush and any subsequent install seriously. Once again I know you could just make up the figures but these are likely to be the people that don't commission boilers properly and probably aren't even Gas Safe to do it in the first place. I am all about being professional and looking professional. As well as covering my arse

 

[Riley]

Sorry to bump but any other thoughts guys. Cheers Joni. Two old boys At my merchants told me that they never bother with water testing, but these were the same two know alls that were in there bending the owners ear that their warranties claims were Being dismissed by manufacturers. I just like belt and braces. I don't care if a job takes me an hour or two longer if I know it's right

 

[Rickster123]

Are you planning on going into the powerflushing in a big way? What chems are you planning on using?

 

[Riley]

Not massive scale but it's another string to my bow and I do have. Lots of queries about them

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Tbh don't test as don't see the point unless you want to empty your bank account on testing stuff also another thing to get calibrated

If you want to invest in something go for a decent thermal imaging cam

 

[Riley]

Yeah i did think that Shaun. Someone said the ones that flush into your phone aren't bD

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Yeah i did think that Shaun. Someone said the ones that flush into your phone aren't bD

Flur one very good but not good if you have a case as you need to remove the case for it to work

 

[Last Plumber]

I used to use an acidic cleaner followed by neutralising chemic after and test with PH paper.

Caused a few issues though and now i'm back to good old F3 and F1

Occasionally use Kamco machine but not as often. Only used now if someone specifically needs it or boiler is busted and its urgent.

I find the old ways are good. F3, leave it in a week and get it hot then drop it out.